Re: Nobody should ever need to patch the kernel!!




angryatlinux wrote:

phil-news-nospam@xxxxxxxx wrote:
| It is strange to me because layered drivers have been essential in
| other operating systems for the last 20 years or so. Even Dos was
| actually nice in that regard and everyone had their favorite cool
| tsr's. The linux model really strangles creative products.
ohh really? Did DOS kernel knew that TSR is there? I mean Could you
list down the TSRs with simple command like "LSMOD".

TSR was a horrible hack. It doesn't work in modern Microsoft OSes.

Why don't you describe to me a "creative product" that is being strangled
because of Linux's model for driver interfacing?

Oh, just look around for the most famous linux kernel patches... I don't
know many because I am a linux newbie, but anyway:

You cannot enable file monitoring or disk activity without a patch

You cannot enable shfs mounts without a patch... now this deserves a
talk on its own because it's really incredible: do you really think that
one should patch the kernel to support a new filesystem? The kernel
programmers, what were they thinking when they programmed that part,
that the number of supported filesystems by linux was not intended to raise?

You cannot enable ACPI without a patch (ok I think now it made into the
kernel, but it used to need a patch)

And others that don't come to my mind now
Bottom line: if code is not stable it will be found as patch. If its
stable, working and useful it will be in kernel.

.



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