Re: AMD 64 Rumours!

From: Fountain of knowledge (google5_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 05/25/04

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    Date: 25 May 2004 03:34:01 -0700

    > The socket 939 pin parts will be out in a couple of weeks, you definitely
    > should wait. Currently AMD has two families, the Opterons in the 940 pin
    > package and the AMD64 in the 754 pin package. The Opterons and the new 939
    > pin Athlon 64 have two memory channels, the 754 pin AMD64 has only one.
    > The part known as the Athlon 64FX is a rebranded Opteron 1xx. The first
    > 939 pin parts won't be significantly faster than the 754 pin parts that
    > they are replacing because AMD reduced the cache size from 1M on the
    > 754s to 1/2M on the 939s. The doubled main memory bandwidth and the
    > reduced cache effectively cancel each other out so that the performance is
    > comparable. However the 939 parts support more RAM than the 754s, they
    > will also support ECC memory which the 754s don't (I'm not absolutely sure
    > about this but it's hard to imagine that AMD woudl put out a part like
    > this that doesn't support ECC). The 939 pin parts also have a future which
    > the 754s don't. AMD does plan to offer a low end Duron like part in the
    > 754 package next year but there aren't going to be any significantly
    > faster 754s.
    >
    > To summarize,
    >
    > AMD64 754, single RAM channel, 1M cache, end of the line.
    > AMD64 939, dual RAM channels, 1/2M cache, in Q4 they will go back to 1M,
    > next year they may be offered with dual cores (2 CPUs in the same package).
    >
    > Opteron 1xx, dual RAM channels, 1M cache, for single processor servers
    > Opteron 2xx, dual RAM channels, 1M cache, for dual processor servers
    > Opteron 8xx, dual RAM channels, 1M cache, for servers with 2 to 8
    > processors.
    >
    > The Opterons are definitely slated to have dual cores by the end of next
    > year.
    >
    > One more consideration. You want a motherboard with either the Nvidia
    > GeForce3 250 (NOT the 150 which was underpowered) or a VIA K8T800Pro. Both
    > support the 1GHz Hypertransport bus of the new 939s. The NVidia also has
    > built in 1G ethernet. The VIA based boards are using external 32 bit PCI
    > based Gigabit ethernet controllers which can't come close to delivering a
    > gigabit of bandwidth.

    Cool. Any idea on release dates or are these long term goals for AMD
    that have not been completed yet? i.e. Is it a case of wait for a
    few months?

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