Re: Western Digital hard drives are garbage

From: CBFalconer (cbfalconer_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 06/02/05

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    Date: Wed, 01 Jun 2005 22:59:16 GMT
    
    

    Timbertea wrote:
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    >
    > The 75GXP series IBM drives used a glass platter instead of the
    > traditional aluminum with coating, they tried a new material, and
    > over time it developed stress fractures that were simply not
    > apparent in early testing. It also had some radical head designs,
    > and there was a slightly higher rate of failure due to this, a
    > trade off for increased speed. Rather an issue an immediate
    > recall as many of them would make it past their "useful" life
    > (translation: warranty period), IBM chose to do nothing, and it
    > created a PR disaster for them. On top of that, when you sent one
    > in, you didn't always get one of the same size back, and
    > sometimes you got another 75GXP which had the same potential as
    > the one you sent in. Eventually they did issue a recall, but not
    > soon enough to make anyone happy. The 75GXPs came in a lot of
    > different sizes, and was a very popular drive in the corporate
    > setting for desktops.
    >
    > The technology in them was only used on that particular drive
    > model and is not used in any of the Hitachis period, never was,
    > that problem was well before IBM sold the division to Hitachi.
    > You wont get this type of failure, they don't use the same
    > technology and materials now.
    >
    > ----
    >
    > The whole reason they tried the glass platters in the first place
    > was to fix a problem with distortion of shape in aluminum platters.
    > If you have an electric mixer at home, put some pancake batter in
    > it and spin it quickly in either direction by hand without the
    > beaters in it. Notice what happens? The batter that was level gets
    > pushed to the sides of the container, and the center is now lower
    > than the sides as the material has been pushed to the edges. The
    > same thing happens on a smaller scale to aluminum when its
    > spinning at a much faster speed, it literally becomes out of shape
    > in places and it wasn't a problem you could just add more mass to
    > the platter to fix - more mass just meant it happened even faster
    > and was a lot more energy to spin up - less mass was more
    > desireable, but that warped quickly at higher speeds and made the
    > coatings they were using less reliable. At the time all makers
    > were having problems with this distortion (and they still are).
    > Glass seemed like a good idea at the time, it didn't compress like
    > the aluminum did, so they figured it wouldn't spread out, and in
    > their testing it didn't. But what they didn't figure on was that
    > the forces were enough over time to make some areas of it brittle,
    > the same centrifigal force was still in play, but the energy
    > didn't have a handy outlet as it was working against the bonds in
    > the glass constantly. Accelerated wear teting failed to catch it,
    > and the rest is history.
    >
    > It seemed like the perfect material, easy to work with, able to
    > make it thinner, no compression, no expansion, desirable thermal
    > properties, ability to bake magnetic coatings into the glass for
    > cheaper manufacture.
    >
    > IBM isn't alone in having a line of drives that went bad before
    > their time. I can remember multiple Seagates that were exceptionally
    > craptastic in the 80's and 90's (and did even less than IBM to
    > resolve the problem I might add, worse at a time when HD's cost
    > far more than they do today). Maxtor had it's high failure period.
    > Western Digital had a couple bad models as well.

    A nice exposition of the causes and thought processes behind them.
    I would conclude that one is generally better off, in reliability
    terms, by getting slower drives. That should make 5400 RPM quite
    desirable. As far as I am concerned speeds remain more than
    adequate.

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