Re: bad blocks in under 2.5 years! So much for HP ...
From: Jean-David Beyer (jdbeyer_at_exit109.com)
Date: 11/03/05
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Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 09:16:23 -0500
milkyway wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a Suse Linux system. I have had a HP Pavilion laptop (zv5000)
> for a little more than 2 years and the hard drive appears to be faulty
> - after only 2 years ;-/
I do not know what grade of hard drive HP put into that machine. It is my
unpleasant experience that no Maxtor DiamondPlus 9 hard drive passes the
Linux badblocks test, even brand new out of the box, and this is on 4
different machines, with different versions of Linux. and about 6 different
hard drives. These hard drives all seem to work, however, though I feel
uncomfortable about this.
I have not had any problems with SCSI drives, although I have used only 6 of
these, 2 in my old computer that runs 24/7 since early 2000, and 4 in my new
one that runs 24/7 since March 2004.
IIRC concumer grade hard drives only last a few years these days. The SCSI
ones seem to be guaranteed for 5 years, though the MTTF numbers for them is
considerably longer. There are some non-SCSI hard drives with longer
warrantees, but who knows if you have one like that.
I suggest taking a total backup of your machine. Since it is a laptop, you
might wish to connect it to a LAN where a suitable backup device exists on
one of the other machines.
>
> I have been able to run the Suse Rescue program to get some kind of OS
> up and going:
>
> Linux Rescue 2.6.4-52 .. i686 i686 i386 GNU/Linux
>
> I get the following error:
>
> reiserfs_read_locked_inode: i/o failure occurred trying to find
> stat
>
> which is exactly like the problem stated in this thread:
>
> http://groups.google.com/group/alt.os.linux.suse/browse_frm/thread/fac1040564d7c1cf/0a0c77087bd58d65?lnk=st&q=reiserfs_read_locked_inode&rnum=5#0a0c77087bd58d65
>
> The advice I have been seeing online specifies to get a list of bad
> blocks and then running a command upon them (the bad blocks) as
> specified on this page:
>
> http://www.namesys.com/bad-block-handling.html
>
> **My problem: I do not know how to get the outuput of the list of
> "badblocks" to a file.
>
> **My question is: Is there some way to repair the blocks by using just
> *one* command on the entiere hard disk system? In otherwords, can I do:
>
> command_name /dev/hda
>
> and then have *all* the bad blocks repaired?
If the blocks are bad, you have to replace or recondition the platters.
AFAIK, this is not practical and would cost far more than buying a new hard
drive.
>
> -OR-
>
> is there a way to get this list to a file?
>
man badblocks
says, in part:
-o output_file
Write the list of bad blocks to the specified file. Without
this option, badblocks displays the list on its standard output.
The format of this file is suitable for use by the -l option in
e2fsck(8) or mke2fs(8).
> -OR-
>
> Is there another way to address this problem?
>
> I am soooo disappointed with this laptop. I have another laptop from
> Compaq (a 1700) that is *much* older and I never had any problems
> whereas with this HP, it goes out a little after 2 years.
>
Older hard drives (e.g., in 1996) seem to last much longer than the newer
ones. Certainly for ISA hard drives. This is just my impression, and since I
have had only 11 hard drives in my own machines, and one or two in each of
my friends' machins, this is hardly a statistically significant sample.
OTOH, since it is all I have, I will be getting only SCSI hard drives in the
future. Actually, I prefer SCSI anyway because I do some IO intensive
database stuff where the ability to run drives simultaneously to avoid seek
contention and to queue commands is important.
-- .~. Jean-David Beyer Registered Linux User 85642. /V\ PGP-Key: 9A2FC99A Registered Machine 241939. /( )\ Shrewsbury, New Jersey http://counter.li.org ^^-^^ 09:00:00 up 25 days, 8:23, 6 users, load average: 4.26, 4.19, 4.12
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