Re: Why is not the northbridge circuitry a part of the cpu?



sndive@xxxxxxxxx wrote:
AMD CPUs have the memory controller in the CPU. Intel has yet to go
that route.

Is that why dual socket AMD motherboards suck?

No, that is why dual socket AMD motherboards usually outperforms dual
socket intel motherbords when you do memory benchmarks.

Most dual socket opteron motherboards have different memory banks for the
two CPUs. Most dual socket xeon motherboards let the two CPUs share the
same northbridge which becomes a bottleneck to RAM. Typical solutions look
like this:

AMD Opteron: RAM <- HT -> CPU <- HT -> CPU <- HT -> RAM
Each CPU has at least one hypertransport to a memory bank of its own and
also a hypertransport to the other CPU.

Intel Xeon: CPU -> Northbridge <- CPU
I
V
RAM

Both CPUs share the same northbridge and the same memory bus.

There are some really expensive motherboards for intel where each CPU has
its own norhtbridge and the cheapest dual socket opteron motherboards only
have a memory bank connected to one of the CPUs, but most motherboards are
constructed as described above. A good idea is to study the block diagram
describing a motherboard before bying it.

regards Henrik
--
The address in the header is only to prevent spam. My real address is:
hc8(at)uthyres.com Examples of addresses which go to spammers:
root@xxxxxxxxxxxxx root@localhost

.



Relevant Pages

  • Re: How would you store 100TB data?
    ... What about electronics, motherboards, CPUs, memory? ...
    (comp.arch.storage)
  • Re: Dual Core CPU vs Dual PHYSICAL CPUs
    ... Dual Physical CPUs ... attached then a dual socket wins; ... If the issue is total available memory bandwidth then the dual ... If the issue is the average memory latency; a dual core chip wins. ...
    (comp.arch)
  • Re: DDR questions
    ... It's getting a bit daft now - i.e. hardware spec's and configuration. ... Which leaves me wondering why the "hyperthreading" feature, in the bios, on ... AMD cpu based / single memory channel Socket 754 boards seems happy to set ... 72 pin SIMM memory based motherboards used to feature "page ...
    (microsoft.public.windowsxp.hardware)
  • Re: What is the best Asus mb for intel PIII Tualatin 1400
    ... In article, "Bo Monberg ... plus TR-DLS and TR-DLSR server motherboards. ... They have Serverworks chipsets. ... except for the maximum memory limitation. ...
    (alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.asus)
  • Re: New mobo in old ATX Penguin Computing box?
    ... A new motherboard will require a new processor and new memory so ... Also new motherboards use PCIe ... graphics, not AGP, so you'll need a new graphics card. ... graphics card a new mobo would come with. ...
    (comp.os.linux.hardware)