Re: usb adsl doesn't connect
From: MarkK (markkzoom_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 07/15/03
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Date: 15 Jul 2003 01:12:41 -0700
Harry Phillips <hhgdf@nowhere> wrote in message news:<rb1vt-pd2.ln1@home.tux.invalid>...
> MarkK wrote:
> >
> > Fact remains that half my gear is not supported by linux.
> > Another fact is that most hardware does not come with Linux drivers.
>
> Are you being stupid on purpose? He has already explained the situation
> to you, but I will dumb it down for you.
>
> Linux is more than capable of supporting your hardware, the problem is
> the manufacturer of said hardware made a choice to not write the linux
> drivers. The fault lies with the H/W maker not with linux, go bitch to them.
Fact remains that most hardware IS NOT SUPPORTED, nor is that
shortcoming advertised to newbies.
>
> >
> >>So how can you say that Windows is good for hardware compatibility, just
> >>because companies provide Windows with drivers for their new hardware.
> >
> > Whatever. The stuff still can't be used with Linux.
>
> See my comments above, it can.
Irreleveant. IT ISN'T !
>
> >
> >>Windows itself isn't "good for hardware compatibility", it's just common
> >>with the hardware manufacturors. And how about many of the new
> >>"Windows-only printers, which don't support NT through XP, because of
> >>security issues re: parallel port access. Is that good hardware
> >>compatibility?
> >
> >
> > Never heard of anyone having that problem.
>
> Don't get out much do you.
It's precisely because I do get out that such boring trivia is unknown
to me. In any case, I am not getting XP on principle. I had hoped to
be using Linux instead, but since the majority of potential new users
with adsl can't even get on the net with the modems they have, it'll
have to wait until I upgrade my gear in a few years.
> >>Speaking of which, the main reason a lot of hardware isn't supported on
> >>Linux, is simply because the manufacturer's won't support it.
> >
> >
> > Exactly! I WANT to change to Linux, but I can't. I can't even get on
> > the net with it.
>
> Buy hardware from decent manufacturers then instead of the ones with
> their head up Microsofts arse.
I have spent hours trawling the net for adsl modems supported by
Suse, and then checking the NG's to see the problems with the ones
which ARE allegedly supported. Looks like I'll have to buy a router
instead, and even that could be aggro.
>
> >>
> >>My point again: Windows doesn't support the hardware, the hardware
> >>supports Windows. The solution? Encourage hardware manufacturers to
> >>support more hardware, or release specs for their unsupported hardware,
> >>if not to the OpenSource community, then to selected Linux wizards.
> >
> >
> > Right! In another thread I suggested that anyone and everyone pesters
> > the manufacturers for Linux drivers on principle, like I did, instead
> > of just keeping stumm and buying something else.
> > Mark K.
> >
>
> Talk with your money, don't buy their hardware in the first place.
> Complaining after they have banked your money is less effective.
I would have, if I had known that beforehand, it's not advertised.
Here's something that IS advertised: Linux is crap for new users.
Maybe I should have heeded that advice instead.
Mark K.
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