Re: M$ attack on Common Sense

From: Sinister Midget (sm_at_kcsmartNOSPAM.org)
Date: 09/14/03


Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2003 04:40:12 GMT

As User so eloquently gibbered on Sun, 14 Sep 2003 at 03:21 GMT:

> "Ed Murphy" <emurphy42@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:pan.2003.09.14.00.50.27.922208@socal.rr.com...
>> On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 23:23:19 +0000, User wrote:
>>
>> > "Ed Murphy" <emurphy42@socal.rr.com> wrote in message
>> > news:pan.2003.09.13.03.47.09.228144@socal.rr.com...
>>
>> >> Exactly. If you measure server attacks alone, you're ignoring a big
>> >> piece of the picture. Home users and workstations matter!
>>
>> > I may have read this incorrectly. While attacks on home users are
>> > significant and do matter you cannot compare linux and windows in that
>> > situation because linux doesn't cater for home users.
>>
>> This is becoming increasingly untrue. Red Hat 9 is a major step in
>> that direction, and others are making further steps. (Perhaps too
>> far: Lindows was said to default to having everyone work as root. I
>> *hope* they've changed that.)
>>
>> Lindows also sells something called Click-and-Run: apparently you
>> just look through their list of software, push a button, and it gets
>> installed for you. This is generally free software that experienced
>> users could just download somewhere else; Lindows is basically charging
>> Joe User a convenience fee. Perfectly acceptable.
>
> RedHat 6 was also said to be user friendly - but a security nighmare. They
> left everything on. Redhat 6 also came with the wrong header versions so
> kernel compilation was difficult. Redhat seven versions came with complete
> source trees missing out of the kernel rpm. This is "user friendly". Its
> difficult just to chose a major version which will compile the kernel
> properly (which they are all supposed to do).

They're getting ready to release 10 or somesuch in about a month. Get
over 6. It's over you.

What source trees? I installed all of the 7.x series and found nothing
missing.

I also compiled kernels in all of those versions. I was using Redhat
(the one that has the guy with the red hat). What were you using?

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