Re: Mandrake 9.1 modem ADSL NIC not recognized
From: P.T. Breuer (ptb_at_oboe.it.uc3m.es)
Date: 11/12/03
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Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 23:10:14 GMT
Bill Unruh <unruh@string.physics.ubc.ca> wrote:
> ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es (P.T. Breuer) writes:
> ]Risky <risky_dellis@libero.it> wrote:
> ]> it's my true first day in Linux. I've finished the installation and
> ]Congrats. Installation of what?
> ]Oh! Mdk 9.1. Please don't put info in the subject! We need it down
> ]here.
> ??? Sheesh. You really need to learn to read. Titles are an impotant
> part of a message.
They are not part of the message at all - they are a pointer to the
message for the people who read subjects before contents (I don't even
see the subjects because a "tab" keypress takes me from one message body
to another, directly).
Read a newspaper. Notice? Nowhere does the headline form part of the
story.
> ]And what do you mean by "recognized", and what makes you think so?
> ]Nothing you say below would make me believe that the system has any
> ]trouble finding out what the card is, which is what "recognized" means.
> ]> everything seems working well. The only (and unfortunately important)
> ]> problem is the fact that my new Os can't see my modem adsl, it's an
> ]Do you mean "works"?
> He cannot web browse with it I assume.
Let him say. I really can't tell whether he has a driver for it. If he
does, I can't tell if he needs pppoe or something like that going. If
he does, THEN I can't tell if he has the right default route set or not.
> If he knew enough to answer all your questions he would not need to ask
> what he did.
Let him answer the questions.
> ]Those aren't modems, btw. ADSL is digital. Nothing to
> ]modulate/demodulate!
> See below.
How far? :-)
> ]> ITEX ADSL PCI NIC modem. When i tried to set up the Internet
> ]That tells us nothing much. Is it a NIC (network interface card) or
> ]isn't it? If it is, great, you just have to load a driver for it and
> ]configure the interface. If it isn't, what IS it?
> It is manufactured by ITEX, it is an interface between the computer and
> a phone line ADSL connection, it is on the PCI bus and it has something
> to do with networks.
I'm not sure. I couldn't tell from the description if it is a standard
NIC card connected to a standalone router terminating the adsl line. I
have a hope that it is.
> ]> connection Linux always tried to make me connected trought my Ethernet
> ]It "tries" nothing. It does what you tell it to. If you want to route
> ]packets by default through your "NIC" instead of via some other card
> ](NIC) on your machine, you tell it to, and it does it. Use /sbin/route.
> ]> 10/100 card and not the modem Adsl. I don't know from where to begin,
> ]Why not?
> Because he is a newbie.
Newbies know how to read the Net-4-HOWTO. And how to go to
linuxnewbies.org. We were newbies once. We did that (at least the
first!)
> ]> I read a lot about Kernel configuration but I am really new of that,
> ]What's kernel config got to do with anything?
> That is how he believes you put drivers into linux.
But why does he believe he needs a driver? You seem to believe that he
doesn't, and that he needs to set the default route. I simply don't
know (i.e. zero knowledge, 50/50). I can't tell from the tale.
> ]> so if someone could help me I will be very glad to him.
> ]Start at the beginning. Stop making weird jumps of illogic. You have
> ]some kind of internal pci card that you put in your machine and expect
> ]to work in some way. What is it? What driver does it need/ What happens
> ]when you load it? Etc.
> Uh, those are just the things he wants to know.
It's what we want to know. Unfortunately he's the only person who can
tell us. We need to get him to produce more hard data.
> ]Personally, I wouldn't touch any kind of "internal" or usb adsl device
> ]with a bargepole, because they need drivers! Where do you plan on
> ]getting your driver from? Tell us a little about the card. What does
> ]lspci show you (and us)?
> ]Now, what makes you think it is not "recognized"? What does dmesg say
> ]about it? What does /sbin/ifconfig show you? And /sbin/route?
> Oh, dear, running off in all direction except helping. He wants to use
The data is what I would want to see, and what you would want to see
too, I suppose!
> his adsl ( and they are usually called modems, even if you do not think
> the term is appropriate-- to chastize someone for using a term in common
> use is both rude and silly.)
> You clearly do not know what the device is, and I do not either. Tehre
None of us can know. Only he can. We need to see ifconfig, dmesg, lspci
output, etc.
> needs to be a driver for the device. Does one exist? Does Mandrake
> automatically load such a device if it detects the modem?
I imagine it makes a best attempt, which may or may not work, depending
on a number of factors. The most prominent being todays flavour of chip
in whatever card he has stuck inside.
I have a vague hope that it's an ordinary NIC, and that his router is
an external.
> One possibility is to run the command lspci and see if there is any
> reference to something which might be this modem. Then look at
> the output of dmesg
I believe I already asked for those :-).
Peter
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