Re: Linux, the final decision

From: Ed Murphy (emurphy42_at_socal.rr.com)
Date: 02/01/04


Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 05:46:31 GMT

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 01:00:14 +0000, The Ghost In The Machine wrote:

>>> It is possible to NFS mount a nonexistent machine. More precisely,
>>> the machine exists at the time of the mount but then goes down;
>>> the NFS mount then simply sits there, anticipating a restart
>>> of the down machine. Access attempts to files on that mount result
>>> in process hangs if one uses a hardmount; the idea at the time
>>> of the design was that the machine would eventually come back.
>>>
>>> Or one can NFS mount a machine, then the mounted machine decides
>>> to change its IP address by not renewing a DHCP lease or by being
>>> reconfigured.

> As you might have noticed, there are (at least) two general
> possibilities for design that are possible.
>
> [1] The system pretends the crash didn't happen and waits for
> the remote box to restart, then continues where it left off.
>
> [2] The system notifies the app that something went wrong, which
> the app then decides to notify the user, confusing him
> to some extent, then the app terminates.
>
> With NFS, one can get either option. :-) (I'd have to look to see
> how Windows deals with an analogous situation. One advantage
> of course is that Windows drivers have access to the GUI, which
> might be of some assistance for notification if a remote node
> decides to go down.)

I don't think I've ever tried NFS on Windows. In general, though,
Windows' response to an unavailable network share is to keep trying
for a while and then give up with a failure notification, i.e. your
[2]. Why NFS (or any other networking system) would do [1] baffles
me; if a specific app *wants* to wait forever, then it can simply
try again when the failure notification is received, right?



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