Re: VS.NET is too EXPENSIVE. Developers switching rapidly from it.

From: John Bailo (jabailo_at_earthlink.net)
Date: 03/29/04 

Date: Sun, 28 Mar 2004 23:09:26 GMT

Mike Cox wrote:

> I'm a big fan of .NET and Visual Studio.NET. But at my company, we
> are going to switch to Linux because, quite frankly, VS.NET costs way
> too much in light of the huge competition from Linux. After all, in
> order for MS to be successful it needs a large group of developers.

There are other problems. For example, at my firm we have a design group.
What do they use? Macs, of course. So, say we want to share files with
them. VSS.NET? No client for Mac. Metrowerks -- well, it's expensive and
the last time I looked it wasn't even for sale.

So how about switching to CVS. Great idea, then there are clients for Mac,
Linux, Windos. But, at that point, the whole idea of a seamless system
falls apart. If VS won't interop with Mac, how can professional sites be
built with it in a business environment?

>
> At my company, I'm an MS proponent, but I have LOST the battle in
> terms of justifiying the cost of using Visual Studio when there are
> free Linux alternatives. My company won't use Visual Studio.NET stuff
> for internal use because of its cost. Why should management spend
> thousands of dollars per year for MSDN and VS.NET per developer when
> it can just use Open Source software and documentation for free?
> Especially considering the fact that g++ is really standards
> compliant, and that there is ACE+TAO for CORBA development. There is
> troll tech for GUI app development which is completely cross-platform,
> and you can choose the license you want, GPL or commercial. There is
> even mono and eclipse for .NET development.
>
> Why does anyone need Microsoft Visual Studio.NET and MSDN then?
> Especially when it costs thousands per yer for one developer? I can't
> make the cost argument, and there aren't any Visual Studio.NET
> installations at my company, only VS 6.0, and any upgrades that happen
> will be to Linux.
>
> But all is not lost. If you follow my pricing guide lines, you will
> see people stay or convert to VS.NET. I am in the trenches so I know
> what is going on. Here are my price ideas for VS.NET:
>
> Visual Studio.NET Professional: 129 dollars
> Visual Studio.NET Enterprise : 199 dollars
> MSDN (The Enterprise version) : 125 dollars per year.
> VS C# Basic Edition: 29 dollars. 

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