Re: Trouble getting off the ground with rsync

From: Alexander Skwar (from_at_alexander.skwar.name)
Date: 09/07/04 

Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 23:40:16 +0200

P.T. Breuer wrote:
> Alexander Skwar <from@alexander.skwar.name> wrote:
>
>>P.T. Breuer wrote:
>>
>>>Alexander Skwar <from@alexander.skwar.name> wrote:
>>>
>>>>P.T. Breuer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Paul Black <nospam@nospam.saturnine.org.uk> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>P.T. Breuer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Not reading the manual, apparently!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>SYNOPSIS
>>>>>>> rsync [options] [user@]host:path path
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OR
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rsync [options] path [user@]host:path
>>>>>>
>>>>>>It doesn't pay to be a condescending smartarse when _you_ get things wrong:
>>>>>
>>>>>I don't. I pasted the man page. In its entirety, may I add, up to the
>>>>>DESCRIPTION section.
>>>>
>>>>No, you did not. You pasted 6 lines, starting with "SYNOPSIS"
>>>>and ending with "path [user@]host:path".
>>>
>>>
>>>That's " In its entirety, may I add, up to the DESCRIPTION section".,
>>>So it appears you are lying.
>>
>>How am I lying?
>
>
> You lied when you said "No, you did not". I did (paste the manpage. In
> its entirety .. up to the DESCRIPTION section". Ergo, you lied.

No, "lying" is the wrong word. You may say that I made a wrong
accusation.
>>That man page is, as you're so eager to underline,
>>not the original, complete version of the man page.
>
>
> It is the original version, and it is complete. Whether it is the same
> as yours is another question!

And whether it's the same as the original, is yet another question.

> But I wish you would stop confusing
> yourself by referring to "the man page".

Why do you wish so?

> If you recall, I asked him
> particularly where he got his information from,

Well, no, that's not *exactly* what you asked. In your ever charming
way of asking, you said "Where do you get your stuff from?". While it's
true that in some respect you asked, you also gravely attacked him.

> and I did so for a
> reason, which by now should at last be sinking into your skull. If you
> are capable of putting two and two together, that is, and of recalling
> that I know the syntax for talking to a rsync server (well, urrm,
> approximately, at least)

So, you don't know it at all. Thanks. Either you DO know the syntax,
or you DO NOT. You don't - as you say.

Let's add:

- doesn't know syntax
- wrong, broken man page
- attacks people

In my book, this equals to being a smartarse.

>>>>If that's all you have
>>>>as the man page, then it's your fault being a smartarse for not
>>>>verifying that your man page is unbroken.
>>>
>>>My man page is just fine, thanks.
>>
>>Okay, obviously I'm unable to understand what you write.
>
> That is the case.

No wonder.

> It is complete, (in the sense that) it is the way the producer shipped it.

Well, if it is, how come lines are missing?

> Do you want me to give you the version number and package md5sums? I've
> been manfully resisting doing so.

Yes, please do so.

>>Could you
>>please define it, so that it is (theoretically) possible to
>>barely understand you?
>
> "unbroken" = "not broken" = "working properly" = "without pain in the
> diodes down the left side".
>
> Better?

Yes. In this case your man page is not "unbroken".

>>>Well, that too! (I recall that I missed a / at the end too when copying
>>>and changing his line).
>>
>>So, you're unable to copy'n'paste from a message,
>
> Apparently so. I blame the wrap-around. It was a long line!

Yeah, it's always the fault of the others. Of course not your fault,
that you're incapable of using your newsclient/editor. Can't be.

> You really don't seem to understand.

Seems so.

> I'll spell it out a bit more for
> you - the line posted was not sensical

That's why he got the error message.

> and what he meant to do is not
> completely clear to me

Too bad. Why not simply shut up, if you don't understand something?

> but it is certainly not what the docs say. I want HIM to look
> at HIS manual.

Yes, I agree with you.

> I said here is my manual and it says nothing of the kind.

Well, you already know how I call your manual.

> But I hope that the example will challenge him to go check his manual and
> check HIS sources of information.

Yep.

> You can go and pipe down - I don't care what your sources say, and
> neither does he, because what is relevant to him is HIS documentation.

Exactly. Since I'm referring to the official documentation, which
is *NOT* stored on my harddisk, I think that I do have a much better
standpoint than you do.

My source of documentation is on http://rsync.samba.org/.

> Now, I grant you I might go and guess what he means by "the latest" and

Remember "the latest".

> It's a perfectly good man page. There's nothing strange about it. It
> says at the bottom:

Let's see.

> rsync 3/7/1996 7

1996? You remember that he said somethng about "the latest"? And
then you come around with a 8-year old man page?

You're a total fool. I'm sorry for having replied to you.

>>>>>>>Where do you get your stuff from?
>>>>>>Where do you get yours?
>>>>>The manual page for rsync.
>>>>No, you don't.
>>>Yes I do.
> It "is" the official one.

It *WAS* (a *VERY* long time ago!).

> Or the packager? And which version?

Well, we already know: "the latest". And that's most certainly
not something from 1996.

> Well, I'd say yours is not official,

Okay, if you call http://rsync.samba.org/ftp/rsync/rsync.html not
official, what's official to you then?

> thanks to your ignorance.

Yes, you are. And total smartarse.

Alexander Skwar 

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