Re: Newbe questions
From: Matt van de Werken (mvdw_at_swifrtdsl.com.au)
Date: 12/07/04
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Date: Tue, 07 Dec 2004 19:12:09 +1000
Arie Kazachin wrote:
> Hello!
Hi Arie, and welcome to Linux!
>
> I recently started working at a new place on a LINUX RedHat workstation
> after almost 10 years of working as a chip designer on Sun boxes under
> SunOS+OpenWin and later Solaris+CDE. At home I still use OS/2 WARP3
> on my 9 years old PC.
Better than coming from windows; you at least know the command line etc...
>
> At work I got quite used to keeping 40-60 apps open with most of them
> being iconized into a specific location on the desktop. About 2/3 of them
> are simple textedit-clones of various files which stay open for months
> and most of the rest are about 10 cmdtools in which the most frequently
> used command is "!!<ENTER>". My perception is mostly graphical - I just
> remember almost by heart icon at which location represents what. After
> all, after seeing for years the perfmeter at the top right, the mailer
> next left, browser next left, .cshrc bottom right, .alias above .cshrc,
> ... it's easy to remember. As for the text edit, I mostly love the
> textedit clones for the user-configurable menus (through .textextras-menu)
> allowing me to activate Perl scripts on a selected text. I value this
> feature so much I can do without text highlighting if I'm forced to choose
> between the two.
>
> But now I'm new to the RedHat LINIX on KDE and the default behaviour
> of KDE is too much windows-like: when minimizing an app. it creates
> an icon at the panel instead of on the desktop, thus changing from
> two-dimentional app-selecting tool (CDE desktop) into one-dimentional
> app-selecting tool (panel or apps-list). Sometimes there is a second
> "dimention" on the panel when many instances of the same app are started
> but that requires clicking on more than one place which wastes time.
>
> What I would like to know is:
>
> 1) Is there a way to configure KDE so that a minimized app will
> turn into an icon on the desktop instead of on the panel?
> Is there a way to start an app with geometry args (like CDE)
> which'll result in an iconized app with icon at specific
> coordinates? That's important for returning all apps icons
> to their places (with a script) after some lame sysop tells me
> I have to reboot after merely few months of uptime.
> I noticed that placing a file (or a link to it) in the KDE
> desktop directory creates an icon and I can edit the coordinates
> but that's not an app - it's a file (object?) with which an app
> is associated (somewhat similar to WARP3) and the icon stays
> weather the app is open or not.
I don't know about KDE, but I would probably give windowmaker/afterstep a
try. You will also find here a text editor called "textedit" which I
believe may well be the same one you used on Sun.
>
<snip>
>
> 2) Searching for a simple editor with user-configurable menus I
> currently selected "nedit". It has a user configurable menus
> (in some ways even better than textedit) but the "copy-paste"
> behaviour of nedit isn't 100% deterministic: not always a double
> click marks a string and tripple click marks a line, while in
> textedit it was rock solid. Also, attempting to create a menu
> with few hundreds of elements (approaching what I used to have
> with textedit) I caused a segmentation fault of the nedit and had
> to give up on menu items to make it shorter. Another drawback
> of nedit menus compared with textedit: nedit loads the menu
> once at a start time, which means: editing the menu file
> doesn'r affect already opened editors.
Give textedit a try; I haven't used it, so can't verify it myself.
>
> 3) The terminal shell used in KDE seems to have a low limit on the
> scroll history: I don't remember the value but it's orders of
> magnitude lower than 200MB scroll-history buffer I used to open
> the "cmdtool" with. Are there other shells with HUGE history
> buffers?
Under "Settings" on konsole, click on history. Set size to "unlimited" which
should be pretty much what you're after. However, I don't know whether
you'll have easy access to konsole if you use afterstep, so you might have
to set something else in the new terminal...
>
> THANKS IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP ! ! !
>
No problems.
Cheers,
-- ** Matt van de Werken -- Cricket, Unix, Electronics Enthusiast ** ** Linux -- Dual Athlon MP1800+ -- Tue, 07 Dec 2004 7:05PM ** Smartness runs in my family. When I went to school I was so smart my teacher was in my class for five years. -- George Burns
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