Re: Debian-Crummiest distro!

From: Madhusudan Singh (spammers-go-here_at_spam.invalid)
Date: 12/12/04 

Date: Sun, 12 Dec 2004 13:45:17 -0500

Srikanth NS wrote:

> Hi
> Before jumping on me , let me clarify some things.

Your previous posts have been sufficiently illuminating.

> I am a linux user from November 1999 onwards.
> I started off with Redhat 6.1 and thu 6.2,7.0
> 7.1,7.2, 7.3 (for a good amount of time frame)and
> now keeping RH9 from June 2003 onwards.

Similar background to mine, except that I started with RH 5.1 and skipped
7.0 and 7.2.

>
> In between, in a seperate partition, I keep
> rotating distros like Mandrake, slackware and
> debian(with 3 failed attempts to make X work).
>

You last post on the subject was a litany of problems without any response
to my queries about how you tried to install X.

> I gave the info to say that I am not a clueless
> newbie pointing accusing finger at DEbian.

Your previous postings indicated that you were even incapable of reading
error messages. Yes, you are a clueless newbie.

>
> But DEbian, my god, if u ever are a masochist, this
> is the perfect distro for u.

You haven't met Gentoo yet :)

> X will never work of the box even with commonly
> available hardware here in India.

I have lived in India. And a few of my close relatives there do run Debian,
even on some ancient hardware.

>
> Now, I installed DEbian Sarge. As usual X did not work.
> After struggling thru, somehow made it work(with input from
> the working config file from my RH9 ). I have i815e chipset
> mobo.
> Now to the next torture test. I have an external modem. It
> also is supposed to work right out of the box which it does
> on most distros. But debian, it has to keep its own reputation,
> isn't it?
> It simply refused to work at connecting to net. It will fail
> with pppd error code1. Tnkered with /etc/ppp/options file.
> No it wont budge. Okay I installed wvdial. No it won't budge.

You never provided any response to my questions about your modules, and the
built in ppp support. kppp cannot work if your kernel does not support it,
can it ? How do you expect a possibly non-ppp supporting kernel to run
dialup ?

>
> What is this bloody distro which takes perverse delight in
> fouling up even he most common things which other distros
> do in a painless way?

Speak for yourself, Sir. I have found Debian to be far more painless than RH
(and I used RH for almost 5 years).

>
> What a crummy distro!
> Immediately people are going to jump saying that it is not
> meant for people who can't look up the error msg and fix up
> things. But my question is why this piece of *** has to foul up

People don't have to. Your posts about X not working were priceless -

(not verbatim, but captures the essence)

"Error : X not present ....

NS > What is wrong here ?"

> even the most common tasks!
>
> Ok guys, go on (I have my asbestos suit on!)

Better trade some of that asbestos with some power of observation and some
humility. Until then, good riddance.