Re: Seeking DSL service advice

From: General Schvantzkoph (schvantzkoph_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 01/01/05 

Date: Sat, 01 Jan 2005 12:19:45 -0500

On Thu, 30 Dec 2004 18:31:04 -0600, John Hasler wrote:

> General Schvantzkoph writes:
>> Is it possible that alarm companies are using a standard phone
>> connection?
>
> As I understand it many alarm companies now use autodialers and modems, but
> there are still uses for dry pairs.
>
>> If they are then there will be dial tone on it.
>
> Only when it is off-hook. When on-hook it will have -48V on it.
>
>> All of the lineman who came out to restore the lines told me the same
>> thing which is that their testers can't detect a DSL line other than a
>> Verizon DSL line.
>
> At any phone company where they don't have their heads up their asses so
> far they can see daylight they have records showing what every pair is used
> for and which are free. The lineman's work order tells him exactly what
> pair to use. He tests the pair to double check in case the engineer made
> an error or the records are incorrect.

No they really don't know. Those poles have been there for well over a
hundred years. When they need to run a new line the lineman has to hunt
for a dry pair. They also don't know the condition of the lines with out
testing thme. When DSL was first rolled out there was a huge problem with
load coils on the lines. Load coils were all over the place because
generations of lineman had been slaping them on the lines to clean up
voice quality problems. The problem was that they were designed to operate
in the KHz range of a voice connection not the MHz range of a DSL line.
The phone companies spent a lot of time hunting for those load coils so
they could remove them when a line was converted to DSL.

>
>> One of them told me that Verizon deliberately took away their one
>> instrument that could detect it.
>
> Sounds like deliberate sabotage of the competition. Plausible,
> considering what I have heard about Verizon.

Verizon is a nasty company but I suspect that it's just incompetance not
deliberate sabotage. When they do this they have to fix it and it costs
them a lot of money. They are tying up a big truck and an expensive
employee for a couple of hours. One lineman told be the figure was
$700 everytime a truck rolls. Verizon is never going to make back the
money they've spent fixing my line four times. And if they do succeed in
driving my DSL provider out of business, and I suspect that they will, I
sure as hell won't switch to Verizon as my provider. I'll go with Comcast.

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