Re: Newbie partitioning question
mechdan_at_yahoo.com
Date: 08/04/05
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Date: 4 Aug 2005 09:42:43 -0700
Floyd L. Davidson wrote:
>mechdan@yahoo.com wrote:
>>Having a bunch of partitions is already a pain to
>>administer. Add in a bunch of symlinks and it becomes
>>a royal pain.
>Then go to LVM. I don't mind symlinks at all though...
Or, since this guy is a newbie, just KISS.
>>We're talking about a file server. There are NOT going
>>to be a bunch of processes being run by who knows what/who
>>running on the system. The only potential problem is
>How do you know that? First, I do recall that the OP said
>"server", but I don't recall whether he restricted that to "file
>server" or not. Perhaps so, with only 256Mb of RAM.
In his first post, he specified an "NFS server", apparently
unaware that SAMBA would be better for his situation.
In his second post, he specified that he would be using
it with several Linux machines, plus Win98 and 2k (and
later 2k3).
>>The original poster is putting Debian on the system. The
>>OS is upgraded by typing in "apt-get upgrade".
>What if he gets really smart, and wants to switch to Slackware?
Then he does the following:
>>Besides, the entire hard drive is only 10.2gigs in size.
>>It's no big deal to copy the entire shared data directory
>>to another computer in the network whenever he wants to.
>>If for some reason the original poster wants to change
>>his OS entirely he can just transfer the shared data
>>files, do a complete clean install, and transfer the
>>shared data files back.
>>>>You've left only about 4.4gigs of space for shared files,
>>>>AND split that up for user inconvenience? Why?
>>>As noted, he can split it anyway he wants, *for* user
>>>convenience... and system security and ease of administration.
>>What user convenience? If the user wants to organize
>>his files, he can use directories. He won't have to
>>worry about which partition has more available space.
>Sigh... have you ever actually done any of this stuff???
>What if he wants to share one filesystem with one host or group
>of hosts, and another with a different set of hosts?
Umm...you can do that with directories. Just set up
appropriate permissions on the directories, and set
up exports and/or SAMBA appropriately.
>What if he
>wants one to be a different type of filesystem than another?
Why? This is just a 10.2gig hard drive, there's not going to
be enough of a difference between file systems.
>>Well, excuse me for being familiar with Debian, which
>>is what the original poster wants to use.
>An insignificant fact though.
Well, that's a convincing argument.
>>It's obvious he hadn't actually tried installing Debian
>>yet, since Debian's guided partitioning would have by
>>default offered to split it something like this:
>>5000mb - /
>> 700mb - swap
>>6000mb - /home
>>Contrast this with what the original poster asked about:
>> 50mb - /boot
>>4000mb - /
>> 512mb - swap
>>5638mb - /usr
>>This is nothing like the default "Debian way".
>Right. It looks more like the "OP way". It appeared he had
>actually given it some real thought!
The OP doesn't have an "OP way". He's a newbie who has
never set up a *nix file server before. Only such a
newbie would specify "NFS server" when he intended to
use it with Windows computers
>>I use Debian for all of my file servers and workstations,
>>so I have some idea of what's convenient and how much
>>space stuff takes up. The Debian installer is very
>>conservative, ensuring plenty of room for practically
>>any amount of installed software (the partitioning step
>>takes place before any package selection). Even with
>>a sloppy full graphical desktop install, 2.5gigs is
>>plenty of space for the entire OS (including home).
>I don't think so, and I've been doing unix admin for a couple
>decades now.
Which is definitely irrelevant compared to the existence
of my perfectly functioning Debian file servers.
No amount of experience/expertise trumps reality.
Isaac Kuo
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