Re: Audio CD questions???

From: Charles Sullivan (cwsulliv_at_triad.rr.com)
Date: 08/11/05 

Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 13:04:49 GMT

On Wed, 10 Aug 2005 07:17:38 -0500, CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:

> Charles Sullivan wrote:
>
>> On Mon, 08 Aug 2005 20:10:51 -0500, CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:
>>> Charles Sullivan wrote:
>>>
>>>> I've recently had some old 78 RPM records with voices of
>>>> long-deceased family members converted to an audio CD (cda).
>>>>
>>>> 1. Is it possible to have a list of titles on an audio CD
>>>> that will display in the track list of a player like XMMS or
>>>> any other Linux (or Windows) CD player? If so, what tools would
>>>> be used to create and incorporate such a list when I burn an
>>>> audio CD?
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, to do this you should edit the meta information which is part of
>>> every
>>> track. Your tracks may not now have any information -- that depends upon
>>> what data was keyboarded in when the conversion from disc to disk took
>>> place. If you look at one of the audio track "properties" you will see
>>> some information there.
>>>
>>> Next, when you copy the existing tracks from the original CD, you will be
>>> able to produce an ID file which accompanies the track. This is the
>>> track data file which has places for all kinds of information.
>>>
>>> Finally, when you prepare the tracks for re-burning to a new CD you wil
>>> be able to edit each of the track data tags and that informaiton will
>>> show up
>>> when the track is played. For example, my CD player in my car also plays
>>> MP3's and .ogg files (music files) and the track information appears on
>>> the LCD screen of the car player in case I can't remember whose track it
>>> is.
>>
>> Thanks for the response Dave, but after spending quite a few hours
>> tinkering I'm not having any success.
>>
>> The 'cdrdao' software is supposed to allow including text data
>> with the audio but after I've gone through the entire process,
>> no player I've tried (xmms, gnome-cd, xine) displays anything
>> but the track number in the playlist for the new CD. (They all
>> seem to want to get the track info from a cddb database.) There's
>> _something_ different about the new CD because 'alsaplayer'
>> crashes with it.
>>
>> I've tried using 'cdrdao' with its "--with-cddb" option to
>> copy a commercial audio CD so I'm sure the editing I've done
>> to the TOC file for my CD is syntactically correct. But even
>> with this commercial copy all I see is the info from the cddb
>> database.
>>
>> Is there other software you could recommend?
>>
>> You mention looking at the track properties, but I'm unclear
>> how to do this for a cda track. (xmms can show the info for
>> .mp3 or .ogg files but nothing happens when I click on that
>> menu option for the cda track.) And AFAIK a cda CD cannot be
>> mounted.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Charles Sullivan
>
>
> I'm thinking that you will need a tag editor. A tag editor will give you
> the tools to drill down and attach a standard tag to each track.
>
> Try here:
>
> http://www.tucows.com/downloads/Linux/AudioVideo/Audio/TagEditors/
>
> Hang in there, once you have set everything up it will be a piece of cake.

Thanks Dave, but the tag editors only work on files, not cda
images (nor .wav files).

Although my drive has the capability for CD text, the Linux
drivers don't seem to be up to the task and the 'Lite' version
of Windows software supplied with the drive doesn't support
writing CD text.

In any event, it would appear that few people receiving copies of
this CD would be able to read the text anyway, so I'm going to
abandon efforts in this regard and go with just adding a track of
verbal description.

BTW, your description of restoring the old "Jass" recording was
fascinating. It amazes me you could fit in that chipped out
piece well enough to avoid tearing up your phono cartridge.

Regards,
Charles Sullivan