Re: Kmail problems with filters and Spam

On Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:38:54 +0100, Harold Stevens <wookie@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

In <408ktmF174bb3U1@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Gordon:

[Snip...]

Outhouse Express has such a filter option - and that /does/ delete mail from
the pop server without downloading it.


Possibly the only feature of OE I might find attractive.   :)

One of my pet peeves about kmail is its apparent insistence on downloading
unread mail before I even have time to preview subject, size and sender. I
recall other GUI MUAs (like Sun's mailtool) that allowed preview of unread
POP mail (sender, etc.) and deleting obvious garbage before having to plow
through a download/examination of the entire mail body.


??? I thought that was the reason IMAP was invented!

Pop clients always send a delete command if they want to delete a mail.
The server does not delete it automatically.  Clients usually have
a config setting to do this or not, after each download, and most such
clients set this option to "yes, delete" by default.

That is, the defaulting is between the client program and its user,
not between the client program and the server.

If you have set this config option to "keep", you can meaningfully
have a filter rule to (selectively) delete on server.  Suppose
for instance two people are sharing a mail account, and they need to
download the mail contents to determine if it is really for one or
for the other. One of them could be on a travel, using a laptop.

Imap is meant to be used as a permanent store for mail, ie., you
download a mail to read it, but keep it on the server for future
reference.

For this reason, Imap also has commands to create folders in the
server's store, and moving mails to any such folder.  Also,
clients will not usually send DELETE messages until the user
deletes the mail in the client's user interface.

But most ISP's don't want their users to gobble up
space on the server, so they only offer POP, not IMAP.

-Enrique
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