Re: Do we need wine?
- From: "CAPSKOV" <capsnkkof@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: 8 Jan 2006 16:36:15 -0800
Dances With Crows wrote:
> On Fri, 6 Jan 2006 17:13:02 +0100, Peter T. Breuer staggered into the
> Black Sun and said:
> > CAPSKOV <capsnkkof@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hey CAPSKOV, don't mind Peter T. Breuer. He's apparently incapable of
> dealing with people who aren't as experienced as he is. There's folks
> like him in every newsfroup.
> >> I want [to leave] Windows gradually. Actually, it's hard to do for
> >> me. I need a player which [is] like foobar,
> > What? Player? What's a "player"? A player of what?
> CAPSKOV's English isn't great. I guess he meant "a program like the
> Windows program 'foobar'." I don't know why any programmer with a brain
> would name their program "foobar", because that word's used for a
> metasyntactic variable, but what the heck. Like Peter said, the
> widely-used video players for Linux are mplayer and xine. xine for
> DVDs, mplayer for everything else, they work really well IME.
> >> a PIC viewer as ACDsee,
> > What the heck is "PIC"? Programmed Interrupt Controller? Position
> > Independent Code?
> "Picture", almost certainly. (I've heard other people on other NGs
> refer to ACDSee as an image viewer.) So, what does this ACDSee thing do
> that kuickshow, kview, and Eye of GNOME don't do? Give us some
> specifics, and maybe someone will be able to suggest something. If you
> can't express it in English, write in your native language (there are
> people who speak Spanish, German, and French here, maybe others) or try
> >> Many games and IM which I need also.
> > Games are things that run on a particular platform - you will have to
> > use an emulator or wine.
> For games, this is true. For IM, I thought that you could use almost
> any IM system with kopete, jabber, or gaim. Have you tried those? Do
> that first before worrying about IM.
> >> But the complicated config of wine makes me flinch
> > Complicated? It's a single config file, neatly commented! What on
> > earth is "complicated" about that?
> This is probably something that CAPSKOV is not used to doing, so he's
> afraid to screw something up. Also, the comments may be in English.
> Hey, I'd have a hard time changing stuff in a config file if the
> comments were all in Mandarin!
> > Or you use some commercial version.
> Yep, "Crossover Office" or something like that is a more complete
> Windows emulator than wine is. It's not insanely expensive, but it's
> not free.
> >> and the ntfs file type make the thing worse. My friend tell me,
> >> linux dose not support NTFS drives perfectly. It may
> > It doesn't support NTFS at all - it can allegedly read them, with the
> > default driver
> No allegedly about it. Linux reads NTFS just fine even though there are
> several versions of NTFS.
> > and I have heard that there is a driver that can write them too,
> > though I wouldn't bank on it. So what? Use ext2 or ext3 or
> CAPSKOV, like many people, probably has a large chunk of disk space
> devoted entirely to Windows that's formatted NTFS. He wants to use this
> disk space from Linux. This is not uncommon. If you have a chunk of
> disk space that you want multiple OSes to be able to use, that disk
> space should probably be FAT32. FAT32 is the lowest common denominator
> of filesystems, and everything can read and write it.
> You can shrink NTFS partitions with "ntfsresize", and you can create a
> FAT partition in the empty space with various tools (fdisk and mkdosfs,
> or a bunch of Windows things if you want.)
> >> [It may] be [dangerous] to write on [NTFS from Linux]. Really?
> > Of course.
> NTFS is not documented, so writing to it may break it. This has been
> true for a very long time. I hear they've been doing some good things
> with Captive NTFS, but I can't really test it right now. My dual-boot
> laptop uses FAT32 on its Windows partition for obvious reasons--Captive
> NTFS didn't exist yet when I bought the machine.
> >> Do we need wine? what about your opinion?
> > We need wine, lots of it.
> Don't forget the beer or the whiskey!
> Matt G|There is no Darkness in Eternity/But only Light too dim for us to see
> Brainbench MVP for Linux Admin / mail: TRAP + SPAN don't belong
> http://www.brainbench.com / "He is a rhythmic movement of the
> -----------------------------/ penguins, is Tux." --MegaHAL
Thank you. You understood perfectly. I do not mind any one. Everyone
here is warmhearted. Thanks in advance. I am a linux newbie. Some
question of mine may be too easy to answer. Please don't mind and don't
laugh at me. Especially my English isn't great. Perhaps use the word
"poor" to discribe my capability is more exact.
When I ask the inherent player dose not support MP3, what should I do.
I don't need a answer that to get a new one. I want someone tell me
which one? the one should be more popular. It may support many file
type. For example, a player I use on windows which named StormCodec
can play Real、QuickTime、MPEG-2、MPEG-4
File size of this player only 20000K. Can I ger a player like that or
install codes(how to)? Sorry, do not mistake my mean. I never menet to
I really need a help. Because my thoughts were tied to Windows yet.
Just like Dances With Crows wrote, a large chunk of my disk space
devoted entirely to Windows that's formatted NTFS. I defrag every
parttion per month. I find NTFS parttions are much faster than ohters.
So not long ago I converted all parttions to NTFS parttions.
But this is temporary, I use Windows in most of my work before I can
use FC4 skillfully.
About wine, I wanta how to config can wine more soft of windows.
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