Re: can we break the wordwrap limit in kmail?

On Thursday 14 September 2006 14:46, heavytull stood up and addressed the
masses in /comp.os.linux.misc/ as follows...:

sticking to the specs of those *old* systems for nostalgic people

Narrow-minded thinking, picturing "the PC" as the only computer system in
existence?

yes probably. I'm not suposed to know what the whole world is composed
of.

Instead of being arrogant, you may want to snip the irrelevant sections from
your post and leave in the proper attribution, instead of doing the
opposite.

What about people working on dumb serial terminals on UNIX
machines?

huh?? whou!!
what about people on mars? what about poppies, roses and moses?

There are to my knowledge no sentient beings on Mars, but there *are* plenty
of people working on mainframes and minicomputers via text-only serial line
terminals.

why wold my life be interferred by their existance?

I don't know. Why would *my* life be interfered by yours?

E-mail generally isn't HTML - despite Microsoft's persistent tendency
to promote and stimulate the use of HTML in e-mails.
Upon sending plain text e-mail, line wraps become linefeeds, and as
such, the message is delivered.

you mean line wraps enlarges the email size in html??

Now where did I write anything of such sort?

you say line wraps become linefeeds; what is it?

In plain text, as I wrote in the above paragraph and as I left quoted in for
you to see. HTML is a rendering language and its rendering depends on the
tool it is viewed in.

HTML has nothing to do with comfort, and if you ever get any phishing
e-mails, you'll thank $DEITY that your e-mail client can display plain
text e-mails.

I usually like RTF. it allows on both ends to tell more. pishing,
spams... have nothing to do here.

Phishing techniques which hide the actual URL underneath a faked URL
disguised as a legitimate one - which is perfectly possible via HTML mail -
and forcing you to download images and other needless bells and whistles
from a possibly obscure webserver just to read an e-mail message are pretty
dangerous.

Considering how many Windows viruses get dispersed through e-mail because of
Windows's habit to consider viewing an attachment and executing whatever
code resides *inside* that attachment as being the same thing, there are
far more arguments against using any other format than plain text for
e-mails than there are in favor of it.

there are a lot of features changing the look of emails; liking it or
not is just a matter of the user's tastes.

And most of those features are blatant security hazards,

but Why wold you stop everything for those security hazes??
building a nuclear facility for energy is a threat of terrorism, do
government stop their plannings??

Terrorists appear to be easier to track down and contain than viruses and
their writers. Besides, nuclear facilities are far better secured than
Average Joe's Windows PC, and are run by people far more responsible and
far more educated than Average Joe, sitting at his Windows PC.

That's why Average Joe's Windows PC is sending out spam e-mails to us
GNU/Linux users as well without Average Joe even knowing about it.

NO! they fight agaisnt the threat.
your behaviour is quite laughable because if i really scan your way of
life I will obviously find many such examples that concern you.

You don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about. I do not have
the legal or military power to go after every crook who wants to con me out
of my money, take advantage of my goodwill in other ways or inflict
whatever other harm upon me, but I sure as Hell can secure people's
computers from becoming the remote tools for people who _do_ wish to
inflict harm upon others.

The security model and adherence to standards are but two of the things that
attracts me to UNIX-style operating systems, but I know most of what I know
about Windows from other people's experiences, and as a GNU/Linux advocate,
I also know how badly damaged people's ideas of information technology
become after they've been exposed to The Microsoft Way(tm).

such as HTML e-mails that contain links to pictures that are being loaded
from webservers separately.

you can set you email client to not to download any pics from othr
servers than your mail server!

I've done better than that: I've set it not to download ANY pictures, unless
they are attachments.

and you can off course build up just a trust list of trusted emails and
you choose to fully download emails only from that trust list. Or there
are so many many ways! But stopping all new techs just because of
theats a matter of you only. do not speak and choose (although you
cannot) for the rest of the world.

I am certainly not stopping all new technologies. I am simply fending off
the idiotic ones. And Windows has certainly introduced a lot of those into
the minds of the unwashed masses.

i'm using kmail 1.8.2 maybe this issue is already solved in recent
releases.

It's not a /KMail/ thing, it's an *e-mail* thing... ;-)

nothing prevents an editor to fulfill such a requirement.

and i confirm

Fine, up to you then to rewrite the whole way e-mail is being processed by
your e-mail client, by the mailservers and by the protocols then.

Perhaps you can proprietarize this technology once you've accomplished all
that - stealing a little code here and there - and then impose your new
technology onto the markets, hereby suppressing the establish standards and
claiming yours as the only ones. Just like Microsoft does.

You don't seem to understand how e-mail works...

I'm quite sorry, I didn't want to hurt yur feelings.

Your original reply to me hasn't hurt my feelings. The tone in this reply
of yours however does come across as arrogant, and I do have a problem with
that, having been around arrogant people most of my life and not being
arrogant myself.

I have however learned to become *assertive,* which is not the same thing as
arrogance and which is what I am being right now. Call it a defense
mechanism, if you will. Well, that's what it is, actually.

you seem to not to understand what people are.

I understand all too well what they are. I also understand that people want
irrational things, and that it is what people want, what they have always
wanted and what they will always want, that turns this world into such a
mess.

anyway I went onto wikipedia and found some links to the email
definition (rfc docs). I will have to study it, i will probably be able
to better stand up for my view.

.... Or you may realize that what you're asking for is simply virtually
impossible to achieve.

--
With kind regards,

*Aragorn*
(registered GNU/Linux user #223157)
.

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