Re: Does Microsoft lie about the Linux features?

From: pbs (pnews_at_lomarline.freeserve.co.uk)
Date: 09/14/03


Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2003 00:02:43 +1200


Nucleon wrote:
> Yes.
>

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/serverappliance/overview/compete.mspx

I've been looking for a place to interject and in this Troll^h^h^h^h
thread, this seems like a good one;-)

The page sets up a straw man and then kicks it between the legs.

The best way to counter argue a piece of marketing like this is to turn
the statements inside out:

* Native support by Linux of Xwindows and NFS partitions.

* MS Windows-based server appliances can be inserted into a UNIX
   environment, when integrated with UNIX (SFU) 3.0 or higher and
   Xwindows from a third party; MS Windows-based server appliances do not
   deliver equivalent functionality in a UNIX environment.

This shows it up to be a very hollow piece of writing.

There are a lot of points one could make about the document like
"Industry-leading Scalability and Performance" LOL. Go tell it to
Sun, HP or IBM.

As a matter of interest talking of "Seamless Integration into
Heterogeneous Environments" If I have IBM mainframes, is my integration
with it at min-server level going to be better with an IBM Linux
distribution or an MS "Windows Powered Server Appliances"?

No need to ask the question of high end Sun systems. I'm not sure
if anyone in HP would know what their product range is at the moment;-)
The 1950s Ford and GM spring to mind when comparing the these two.

When it suits them, the MS marketing machine can just as easily tell
you how well their products integrate with UNIX *and Linux*:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/interop/default.asp#section2
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/sfu/productinfo/overview/sfufaq.asp

I did see something in the MS FAQ (IBM) Host Integration Server 2000
issues which I would like to share with you:
: The file transfer utility provides a user with the ability to move a
: file between the local computer and a host system. Host Integration
: Server 2000 provides this service using a single Microsoft ActiveX
: control.
http://www.microsoft.com/hiserver/techinfo/faq.asp

Hell will freeze over before any MAINFRAME HOST OPERATOR (they talk in
capitals) I have ever met, would ever let an ActiveX control any where
near HIS HOST. Hence this utility is only available for IBM's mini-
hosts.



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