Re: PPPoE and ADSL problem (1 solution)
From: Tero Pihlajakoski (tepihlaj_at_nopaju.spamoulu.fi)
Date: 12/03/03
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Date: 3 Dec 2003 20:34:53 GMT
Stephen Harris <cyberdiction@hotmail.com> wrote:
>> "Tero Pihlajakoski" <tepihlaj@nopaju.spamoulu.fi> wrote in message
>>
>> Redhat has nothing to do with this, I'm not using that distro. The problem
>> might occur with any distribution. Have you thought that maybe the people
>> with "unresolved" problems might be using the dual boot, but not
>> associating it with the problem an thus not mentioning it in the post?
>>
> People usually report their system setup such as which distro and
> dual booting when they describe their problem whether or not they
> think the distro or dual booting is relevant to the problem. So the
> chances that everyone would omit describing their dual boot system
> that matched your problem is vanishingly remote. Your argument
> works better for whether they would describe or include "hibernation".
Ok, since you twist my arm, here's a link:
http://groups.google.fi/groups?q=dual+boot+linux+eth+problem&hl=fi&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=c8e910fc.0205061934.4f276616%40posting.google.com&rnum=3
(Google: dual boot linux eth problem).
That has excactly the same symptoms: No PC light on modem (mine's labeled
ETH, but it's the same thing), eth goes up without problems, but does
nothing. The difference is, this guy is trying to setup the network on
boot -> it hangs (just like mine takes some time to try adsl-start, here
the boot doesn't proceed till the connecting attempt has failed cleanly),
and his using DHCP (not relevant to this problem and gets wrong answers).
You obviously are looking at the problem from too narrow of a view. Maybe
you should try to reproduce the problem yourself and _then_ analyse it
further. You just might agree with me about the reason of the issue.
Here's a quote from that post: "Some other clues: The PC light on the
cable modem doesn't go on in Linux like it does for Windows. I tried
releasing the DHCP lease in windows before starting Linux, 'cause I read
somewhere that windows doesn't do a proper release, but that didn't help,
still no internet."
>>> > I meant nearly precisely like your situation as explained above
>> > since I didn't find any close enough to confirm your diagnosis.
>>
>> As a summary to concerning the trouble finding a 'matching' posting: The
>> problem is, the postings have not necessarily all the info about the
>> system listed.
>>
> That is not a plausible answer to explain why there are no such posts
> which mirror your situation with high accuracy. If your situation is a
> reproducible bug then there should be a few such posts out of the
> thousands of posts in this general area that closely match yours.
> I did not find a single one, and the odds are strongly in favor of one.
I did as I told you in one of the earlier followups. You didn't. Among
thousands sites you browsed :-)
> I looked at laptops since they often use hibernation mode. I notice
> that a script is recommended to deactivate devices before they are
> allowed to go into hibernation. Linux should not have a problem
> awakening devices out of a windows xp induced hibernation state
> if the devices have not been placed in hibernation. Incidentally, linux
> support for hibernation has been less developed than windows support.
> I think the script idea below agrees with the advice given in the vpn post:
> "You should always log out of the VPN client software and exit it before
> letting your system go into screen saver or hibernation mode."
> Hibernation/Suspend mode
> http://www.bolthole.com/solaris/x86-laptops.html#suspend
> Some laptops have a "suspend" or "hibernate" mode that will actually
> partially work with solaris. The trouble is that some of the drivers may
> need resetting. Youri Podchosov has made a hibernation script that can be
> manually run, to get around the effects of this. Note that it needs to be
> customized for your praticular laptop.
Notice the word partially. Maybe it should be added to windows hibernate
instead of "buggy".
> #!/bin/ksh
> #ident "@(#)hiber 3.2 98/11/10 ynp@ynp.net"
> #
> # This script takes care of all routine procedures needed to
> # be performed each time the notebook goes to suspend mode
> # (section `stop') and gets resumed (section `start').
> # What it basically does is deactivates (before suspending)
> # drivers for those devices - PCMCIA network and modem cards
> # and sound system - that are most affected by suspend/resume
> # cycle, and activates (after resuming) those that were
> # deactivated at suspend time.
> # This one definitely works on Tecra 550CDT, although other
> # models may require similar treatment of suspend mode.
> #
> # Syntax: hiber [ -nms ] { on | off }
> #
> # -n (de)activate PCMCIA NIC driver (pcelx);
> # -m (de)activate PCMCIA modem driver (pcser);
> # -s (de)activate OSS audio driver (oss);
> # (default is act upon all three devices);
> # on prepare system for going suspend mode;
> # off restore system after resuming operations.
> Good luck,
> Stephen
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