Re: PPPoE and ADSL problem (1 solution)

From: Tero Pihlajakoski (tepihlaj_at_nopaju.spamoulu.fi)
Date: 12/03/03 

Date: 3 Dec 2003 21:31:18 GMT

I'll answer for my part. More stuff on the reply of the earlier branch.

>> I obviously did not make my msg understandable. Either Win or Linux boot
>> and run perfectly from a coldstart. This would seem to rule out a
>> configuration problem on either side. BUT, if you first boot into Win and
>> subsequently wish to launch Linux, selecting "ReStart" rather than
>> "Shutdown" in Win results in Linux being unable to init the NIC properly.
>> At that point, /sbin/ifconfig shows the NIC with a valid (static in this
>> case) IP, route -n returns the expected values, BUT communication via the
>> NIC is impossible. Everything results in a "network unreachable" error.
>>
>> Doing a shutdown/coldstart sequence either between the Win -> Linux change
>> or once Linux is as described above is the only thing I have found to
>> prevent/correct the problem.
>>
>> JW
>>

> There appear to be solutions to closely related problems in which
> modem, nic, and audio drivers do not resume. A script deactivates
> these devices before the machine enters (windows) hibernation.

Where? You represented earlier a script that works for Solaris. I'd like
try out the win-scripts. Or rather, I'd like to have a script / setup that
prevents windows messing with the eth card on hibernate.

> I've also read from a laptop dual boot using hibernation:
> Windows 2000 Professional SP2 SuSE Linux Professional 7.2:
> LILO must not be installed into the MBR, install it onto your boot
> partition.

> Win Xp pro has a boot loader. Are you using that? I imagine lilo and grub
> work about the same; so do you and Tero both use lilo/grub loaded on the
> MBR? I am looking for things in common, not too hard to change.

I've tried both.

... 8< ... 8< ...

> That is why I think this situation is rather curious. Also I cant find any
> posts on google news or AltaVista search which mention this condition.
> Dual boots of linux and windows xp are common on laptops which
> often use hibernation. One can find very rare problems on Google.
> A common environment like this, if it is a shared problem (bug) rather
> than a user misconfiguration, ought to have generated quite a few posts.
> Even allowing for some filtering due to 'hibernation is not seen as a
> probable cause' (even though there are plenty of hibernation error reports)
> does not explain why there are no duplicates of this problem posted.
> If this problem is reproducible then it is not possible for this to be a
> rarely experienced, thus unposted problem, because there are too many
> dual boot laptops, linux/windows, that use hibernation (disk). Also linux
> is still struggling to provide support for the new protocol, ACPI. That is
> the problem with computers, there are so many things that can go wrong
> caused by apparently unrelated reasons. And different distros work
> differently with different areas performing below par. Perhaps you and
> Tero should compare a detailed comparison of physical hardware and
> brand of linux used. I mean it could possibly be you both use Corel with
> the same kind of Nic card that has problems with that distro, for instance.
> If there is a rare combination match, it would explain why most people
> don't experience or see fit to publish their experiences similar to yours,
> because it doesn't come up with more commonly used environments.

Check out the post on the other branch.

Plus: No, I tried Mandrake 9.1,
9.2 and Fedora core (as I said, I was updating, just checked out fedora to
verify the problem to be the same). Thank god installing these distros is
a lot faster than installing windows.

Why are you insisting it is not a win problem, you don't happen to be a
MCxx? :^)

- Tero 

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