Re: PPPoE and ADSL problem (2nd solution)

From: cyberdiction (cyberdiction_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 12/06/03 

Date: 5 Dec 2003 15:55:51 -0800

Tero Pihlajakoski <tepihlaj@nopaju.spamoulu.fi> wrote in message news:<bqn6eg$3op$1@ousrvr3.oulu.fi>...
> Stephen Harris <cyberdiction@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> * Cut the test cases and some other stuff *
>
> > However the major factor according to my test is that if the dsl
> > connection is turned off, it will not be impacted by hibernation
> > and when you boot into linux it will work <OK>
> > If you don't disconnect dsl then it won't work in linux whether or
> > not you have turned hibernation on or off, is my result.
>
> Then you agree that there's some flaw (I call them bugs) in the way WinXP
> shuts the system down? I originally used the term "Terminate" on the
> occurence of this problem, but it seemed to me that at least sometimes the
> normal shutdown wouldn't cause this phenomenon, and, as you said, the
> network could've been down (though I doubt it). Anyways, if it turns out
> that the eth (->ppp) is messed up even when using normal shutdown just
> because the connection is "left on" (it should be terminated on power
> down), then clearly this is a bug and a lot more severe than with just the
> hibernation issue.
>
> I don't know if one can do relevant modifications to windows shutdown
> scripts, but if can, how? If Leaving ADSL connection on shutdown would
> cause the same problem in Linux, it could be easily fixed with, say,
> writing (i.e. mostly copy-pasting) a script and chkconfig --add.
>
> Also, the tools on Lin in general are well documented and the documents
> are freely and by default available. For admining win, you'd have to pay
> for courses or books; By M$, of course. In this case, I would've probably
> found a mentioning of what hibernate or shutdown do on man pages or by
> reading through shutdown scripts, and could've figured out the problem
> with eth. Probably. On windows, you never know what goes on. And I'm not
> saying that win totally and completely sucks, so please: No OT postings on
> that subject.
>
> - Tero
>

I think of it as a bug. Among all that free linux documentation there
are docs on howto write scripts. However reading and understanding
documentation takes commitment and time.

I posted the instructions I found on how to turn off hibernation
on the nic card in the other thread. Maybe that will be helpful to you.

Regards,
Stephen
i
> --

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