Re: How to set up dial-up on debian after a wrong pppoe config

From: Clifford Kite (kite_at_see.signature.id)
Date: 03/25/04


Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 10:24:47 -0600

David <websurfshop@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Clifford Kite <kite@see.signature.id> wrote in message
>>
>> There's nothing wrong with the chat script so the driver module for the
>> modem is very likely incompatible with the (presumably newer) Debian
>> kernel. From the sound of it the modem cannot echo it's responses to
>> AT commands correctly.

> Well I'm at a loss. It worked with RH6.2 I think the serial_cs.o
> module should work. I used pppd on RH7.2 also on another machine. I
> think it has something to do with the IRQ's that the modem/serial port
> is trying to use because it's a laptop with card services. I don't
> really know enough about this to know what to do. I have to say that

That's a distinct possibility, an IRQ conflict will almost certainly
cause trouble, as would an incorrect IRQ assignment (although I don't
think that's the case here). I don't have laptop experience and so
can't comment on how "card services" on one would led you to believe
the IRQ is involved.

If you haven't already, to be sure there is an IRQ conflict, do

cat /proc/interrupts

to see if something else uses the IRQ used by the modem's serial device.

> with linux it is always something (for me) over my experience. It
> seem like I have always have to upgrade to get what I am looking for,
> and then comes the problems. I thought Debian was the cure becuase it

You might think of it as gathering Karma. :) But, yes, there can be
problems with upgrading and they are at times annoying.

> has a slick dselect/apt-get program that tracks dependencies and
> upgrades them accordingly. But now something as simple as pppd is not

Debian is highly regarded by a friend of mine, who has his own computer
farm (many networked computers), and seems to have very few problems
updating with those package upgrade programs. I use Slackware and as
a result have a fairly high Karma - but it's been worth it to me; I've
learned a lot.

Note that technically this is not a pppd problem, but rather a problem
with modem, or serial device configuration, or the modem driver.

> working. I think half the time you can not rely on what people tell
> you to do on these message boards. And finding adequate documentation

That I can't deny. :/

> that addresses exactly how things work so you can remedy problems is
> very rare. They do a good job about some specific fix for some
> specific machine/install/etc, but you never learn "why?" I thought I
> starting to get past the learning curve with linux, but I guess I need
> to learn how IO is assigned now. Where would I learn that?

The best answer I can give to "how IO is assigned" is manually or, for
PCI, automatically and perhaps according to the order the cards are put
in the MB slots. Manually can mean using setserial, or reordering the
cards, or, in some cases, it might mean configuring the BIOS to reserve
an interrupt and then using setserial.

As to never learning "why," are things really any different for other
operating systems? Especially closed source OSs - unless you pay for
support and even then I'm not sure how detailed the reply to a "why"
question would be.

If it turns out not to be caused by an IRQ configuration then you might
try replacing the "AT OK" in the chat script with "ATZ OK" that your
first post said minicom used on a successful dial out. Or AT&F might
be even better, if it works at all. I'd also check the serial device
setting of minicom.

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