Re: Is Windows beating Linux behind a Linksys box?

From: Grant Edwards (grante_at_visi.com)
Date: 04/22/04


Date: 22 Apr 2004 18:15:24 GMT

On 2004-04-22, Bill Unruh <unruh@string.physics.ubc.ca> wrote:

> ]Apparently, there is no way to name the Linux
> ]computers behind the box, because the box uses
> ]dhcpc to give the computers ip addresses. Now
>
> Fine. It could also give them names but they would change as the IP
> changed. But why do you want names for them?

Because names are easier to remember than ip addresses.

> They should not be accessible from outside anyway.

What's that got to do with whether the machines have names or
not?

> ]I suppose one could turn off dhcp on the Linksys
> ]box and have the linux computer assign names.
>
> OK.
>
> ]But that is alot of work, certainly alot more work than
> ]plug and play windows. But worse if your dhcp server
>
> You have the same problem with windows.

No, you don't.

Windows uses its own peer-to-peer name resolution protocol that
does't require a centralized server which knows the IP<->name
mapping. You can assign IP addresses at random, and still refer
to Windows machines by name (from other windows machines).

Traditionally, Unix won't work that way: it requires a DNS
server than knows the name<->IP mapping. If that mapping is
dynamically created by a dhcp server, then DNS doesn't work
right. I've always thought there ought to be a way to hook the
dhcp server and DNS server together so the DNS server can
update the name<->IP mapping dynamically, but I've never been
able to figure out how to do it.

> ]is down your whole network is down.
>
> You have the same problem with windows.

Doesn't windows have a "fall back" scheme where it just picks
an "unused" IP address and keeps going? Never thought it was a
good idea myself...

> ]Am I missing something here?
>
> Don't use dhcp? Why are you using dhcp?

The usual reasons, one presumes:

  * Laptops/portable computers.

  * Easy centralized administration of network configuration.

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