Re: Help! Ipsec-tools/Racoon link through NAT .. "ip route" fails

From: Alexander Clouter (alex_at_digriz.junk-this.org.uk)
Date: 11/28/04


Date: Sun, 28 Nov 2004 17:15:44 -0000

On 2004-11-28, Sundial Services <info@sundialservices.com> wrote:
> Alexander Clouter wrote:
>> All you can do is really keep an eye on the output of the racoon daemon in
>> debug mode and have a good read of the IPSec HOWTO[4] as to be frank, I
>> think you have missed some rather major points :P
>
> To solve the problem, at this point, I'm looking at purchasing, or renting,
> a Windows-2000 machine dedicated strictly to this project for its duration.
> This is considerably cheaper than the revenue I've already lost.
>
sounds likes someones promised something by a deadline.

> I don't deny that "I've missed some rather major points." What I need is
> /results/ ... not an unwanted, ill-timed education in the intricacies of
> VPN. Time is money and I'm losing a lot of it without compensation.
>
> This is, of course, nothing to do with you or Linux or anything else ... I
> am grateful for your ongoing assistance. I love Linux. But it is
> despairing, sometimes, how Linux "sends you to school" when you simply want
> to push a button and have it be done for you. That's what an OS-vendor is
> supposed to be about, in an ideal world, and it's at times like these that
> I /really/ feel just how far Linux has to go.
>
To do the exact same thing under Windoze you have to do pretty much:

http://ipsec.math.ucla.edu/services/ipsec-windows.html

Now you are doing *exactly* the same under linux/freebsd/etc however its
probably easier as you have everything clearly in two configuration files.
With M$ you have boxes, buttons and windows everywhere and its hard to put
them altogether. Hell I just tried the other week and failed to get windoze
to play ball, it refused to find the certificate I had given it....twice!

There is L2TP+IPSec however that is different and easy to setup under
windoze. If you want pure IPSec, which you should as its more efficient,
then windoze is going to give you a lot of 'excitement' to burn the midnight
oil over.

There is no touchy-feely click'n'drool interface. IPSec is not an easy thing
per-say to just roll out at a click of a mouse button. Certificate
infrastructures do not arrive overnight, however once in place your have a
very powerful system in place with complete control at your fingertips.

>From your needs I would highly recommend you go over to CISCO[1] whom will do
this for you, but of course you pay for it, its part of the game; however I
am probably preaching to the choir which is why you are trying to learn/use
Linux.

> (And this isn't "linux.advocacy," and this isn't flame, so I think we can
> leave it at that.)
>
well about this time I would say its time for a beer or at least your
favourite caffinated drink, coffee, black, no sugar.

Regards

Alex

[1] the professionals http://www.cisco.com/edu/peterpacket/
        I got the 'QoS Rocket' and had to stop before I killed myself



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