Re: gentoo as a pdc server
From: Alexander Clouter (alex_at_digriz.junk-this.org.uk)
Date: 12/02/04
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Date: Thu, 02 Dec 2004 19:51:30 -0000
On 2004-12-02, Hekaton Keires <remove_this_hekatonkeires@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> so you suggest me using debian? anyway what do you think about packages i've
> chosen for the server? i mean:
>
> SMB - samba 3
> NIS - openldap 2.1
> NTP - ntp 4.2
> KERBEROS - mit-krb5 1.3
> DNS - bind 9
> DHCP - dhcp 3
>
Well the type of package is not always relevant on a per-distro basis. If
its available or not (and occasionally the version number, however you should
always try to avoid committing yourself to a particular version number on
reasons of convenience) is a completely different matter.
All those are in Debian (have a look at the Debian website[1] for the
comprehensive list, make sure you keep to 'stable'), I have used all of them
personally except for openldap and mit-krb5 however I know there are plenty
of people whom do.
> do you consider them the right choice? probably i'm going to install some
> add value packages as:
>
Well its not really my place to say. It will replace your Windoze box quite
comfortably, however from my understanding I hear openldap with samba is
'fun' to do, so expect a few nights burning the midnight oil.
> HTTP - apache 2
> VNC - tightvnc 1.3
>
Again, well if you want a webserver great, you will find there are plenty of
other webservers worth looking at. Again it depends on what you are serving
up.
As for 'tightvnc', I'm unsure why you would want to do this when 'ssh' can do
everything you need. If you need remote graphics and such then a locally
installed X server (cygwin for windows) and running things remotely that way
is much more efficient. However it depends what you are doing with VNC; then
this is not a Debian specific thing.
> and another thing: well i've choosen gentoo, just because i started use it 6
> months ago and i feel really comfortable with it, after all i did not
> mention emerging all the time any new package available in portage. but the
> possibility of compiling from scratch every package during installation is
> quite attractive.
>
Why? Most of the time the server probably will sit in IO-Wait (waiting for
the harddisk to supply the data it needs). Optimisation of the applications
is not really the magic bullet, you would be better off looking at
optimisation of your implementation and looking for scalability. Sure the
optimising will help, but its not going to get you out of a fix when your
environment grows tenfold :)
> i know debian is very stable, but the time of new releases for debian are
> alswo very long - i'm not a debian user, so sorry for eventual mistakes. or
> maybe some of you would suggest openbsd for a really stable server?
>
Well thats really what you want surely. Once you configure a server do you
want to forget about it or have to tend to it every hour; or each time an
upgrade occurs and fix everything the upgrade breaks? The packages that go
into the 'stable' tree do not change for a reason as they have been tested
for a long period of time. So if you are a 'proof in the pudding' kind of
guy then the fact that apache is a year and a half old will not concern you,
however what you do care about is that it is secure and stable.
The requirements of a server is not what you want in a desktop. Sure it
would be nice to have the 'latest is greatest' approach but then you end up
compromise on the stability and security aspects.
> the last thing: do you suggest me to use SELinux kernel? i'd rather a
> performant/fast server than a totally secure/stable server
>
Well you probably will find grsecurity[2] does more than help you. SELinux
is a good thing if you understand what its doing. If you are asking the
question its probably not for you :) GrSecurity should introduce you to a
number of things in a pleasant way that does not mean a steep learning curve.
Have fun
Alex
[1] http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages
[2] http://www.grsecurity.net/
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