Re: Peterson's Death Sentence

From: Parse Tree (account_at_domain.extension)
Date: 01/31/05 

Date: Mon, 31 Jan 2005 02:17:22 GMT

Noah Roberts wrote:
> Willem wrote:
>
>> Noah wrote:
>> ) Willem wrote:
>> )
>> )> Doesn't matter.
>> )> The rules of logic apply to *our understanding* of god, if there is
>> one,
>> )> so any discussion about the existence of a god is limited by logic,
>> )> because the discussion is held by those bound by logic.
>> )
>> ) The human psyche is not purely logical. Your argument is not valid.
>>
>> I disagree with your assertion.
>
>
> John wants to talk to the man in charge.
> John does not want to talk to Scott.
> The man in charge is Scott, and John knows this.
>
> Since John wants to talk to the man in charge, and the man in charge is
> Scott, then John wants to talk to Scott. But John doesn't want to talk
> to Scott.
> Since John does not want to talk to Scott, and Scott is the man in
> charge, then John does not want to talk to to the man in charge. But
> John wants to talk to the man in charge.

It's not possible to feel this way.

> So, using the logic that seems to be overwhelming this discussion, John
> is logically impossible and therefore doesn't, and can't, exist.

Yes, he can't exist.

> The problem is that the human thinking is not bound by logic since both
> can be true (John wants to talk to the man in charge, but not Scott).

That would be valid if you added in some more qualifications about time,
and so forth (having Scott stop being the man in charge, for instance,
or put a time restriction on the desire).

> This delema, and ones like it, are rather common place.
>
> But since the human thinking is not bound by logic, it doesn't logically
> exist. So since human thinking is logically impossible this
> conversation, as with all conversations, is pointless.

If you did think exactly as above you could not logically exist, yes.

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