Re: Juniper Netscreen-SA 1000/neotetis SSL web -terminal and linux klients

From: Matt Payton (mattpayton_at_hotmail.com)
Date: 03/17/05


Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:30:02 GMT

Kristian August Mowinckel wrote:
> "Matt Payton" <mattpayton@hotmail.com> skrev i melding
> news:pan.2005.03.16.22.26.38.27084@hotmail.com...
>
>>On Wed, 16 Mar 2005 13:03:17 +0100, Kristian August Mowinckel wrote:
>>
>>>Juniper Netscreen-SA 1000/neotetis SSL web -terminal and linux klients
>>>Has anybody experience with this animal?
>>
>>Yes, quite a bit...
>>
>>>Is it a windows only solution?
>>
>>No, not Windows only. But some of it's features are...Strange, since it's
>>base OS is Linux...
>>Is there something specific you'd like to know ? I have spent quite a bit
>>of time getting familiar with the Neoteris, and what it can and cannot
>>do, including what does/doesn't work on client platforms other than Win32.
>
>
>
> In the following the terminal session I am speaking of is one inside a web
> browser window.
>
> I tried to log on to a windows 2003 server sessesion from:
> 1) windows 2003 server(inside vmware): Seems to work, when I am logged in as
> administrator(a nesoteris program gets installed
>
> 2) windows XP (inside vmware): As administrator: the software are installed,
> but the terminal session never gets initiated. It hangs until there is some
> kind of timeout.
>
> 3) Linux: After I try to connect to the terminalsession it stopps where the
> download of the software normally takes place.
>
> Du you have an explanation?

So, you're trying to use Windows Terminal Services ? The RDP protocol ?
  Assuming that is the case, I think the client that's used is installed
via ActiveX, which is Windows only. So the Terminal Services feature
would be Windows only.

If you purchased the Secure Application Manager upgrade, you could
tunnel rdp using java, and use rdesktop to connect to the Terminal
Services on the other side through that tunnel.

> Where can I get hold of manuals Netreen-SA 1000 + nesoteris?

Do you have an active support contact with them ? The manuals for the
latest version are available after logging into their support site...But
I think you need a contract to get a login.

If you don't have a support contract, I can email the admin guide to
you. I don't see any harm in that :-)
It's in pdf format.
What version of the OS are you running ?
Is the email you used to post valid ? If not, where can I send it to ?

> How does this netscreen/nesoteris combination really function.

It tunnels traffic through ssl. So it acts as a kind of go-between for
external clients, and machines behind a firewall.
Straight http traffic is supported directly through a browser. Anything
else may be tunneled through either Java ( Cross platform ) or ActiveX (
Windows only ) *if* you purchased the appropriate upgrades to the
Neoteris/Juniper.
There are about 3 major features that are ActiveX/Windows only. But a
fair amount of things *do* work through java, and are therefore
cross-platform.

One thing that would work on Linux is VNC via http. I have used that
quite a bit from my Linux box at home. Another is the Citrix tunneling.

> windows program inside linux box???

Not really...They market it as a "Clientless VPN". It isn't, really.
It just uses software that may already be installed as the VPN client
software - A Web browser, Java and ActiveX plugins ( on Windows clients ).

So if you have client software that will run on Linux, it can probably
be tunneled through the Neoteris.
A simple example, Groupwise...
We use it at work for our corporate email. Groupwise talks over port
1677. At home I installed the Linux version of the Groupwise client. I
then set up a profile on Neoteris to create a tunnel from the client
side, through the Neoteris, to our Groupwise server on port 1677. So I
login to the Neoteris from my Linux machine, launch my groupwise client,
and have it configured to talk through the tunnel created by Neoteris.
This set up uses my browser to login to Neoteris( Firefox ), java to
tunnel application data, and a locally installed groupwise client.

-- 
- Matt -


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