Re: setting up lax security on one ethernet interface while leaving the other strict

On Sat, 27 Sep 2008, in the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux.networking, in
article <7a0lbg.56t.ln@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Send wrote:

David Schwartz wrote:

ibupro...@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx (Moe Trin) wrote:

NOTE: Posting from groups.google.com (or some web-forums) dramatically
reduces the chance of your post being seen. Find a real news server.

So as far as I can tell, the risk is raised to precisely zero. I have
used groups.google.com for years and have never had a post that was
not seen.

Where have you been looking? On google? Wow, google doesn't filter
posts from google - there's a surprise. I'd bet if you looked harder,
you would find specific *public* news servers that block posts from
groups.google.com, never mind non-public servers (like those run
by my or my wife's employers).

Results 1 - 10 of about 37,700 for news servers that filter
googlegroups.

As for "Find a real news server", this is a confusion that you
maintain deliberately, despite having been corrected numerous times.

You mean you've complained two or three times, and I've ignored you.
Your selective memory might be forgetting the responses from others
that rebutted your statements. Or it could be that evidence you say
you haven't seen if your comment was in one of the 8 newsgroups where
abuse from groups.google.com is so overwhelming that many (including
me) simply block all posts from there.

News is a service, not a protocol.

Point your browser at http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3977.txt and read it
very carefully - especially the "Abstract" and "Introduction". You can
also get the earlier document http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc0977.txt as
well. Then you can search REAL HARD, and locate the "current" Usefor
drafts, such as draft-ietf-usefor-usepro-12 that _may_ eventually
supersede RFC1036.

Web servers that serve news are "real news server"s.

Are they serving news on port 119 or 563? Do they follow RFC0977,
RFC1036, or RFC3977? Or do they alter news posts - as google does.

The real question is how may people just IGNORE google crap

Given the fact that many news readers can filter on the Message-ID:
header, and everyone and their goat has published simple instructions
on how to do so, it's rather difficult to guess how many ignore google
_crap_ verses how many ignore all posts from google (whether in one
or all newsgroups they may read).

Google is an _advertising_ service. They make their money (you REALLY
don't think they operate for free, do you?) by selling advertisements
based on the data-mining they do every time someone accesses their
servers. Some people like advertisements - some don't.

Old guy
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