Re: Review: Sony Z505NR notebook, and recommendations for new laptop requested
From: Mark South (marksouth_at_null.invalid)
Date: 12/29/04
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Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 18:20:04 +0100
On Wed, 29 Dec 2004 15:18:06 +1000, Brian Eable wrote:
> Mark South <marksouth@null.invalid> writes:
>>
>> On Tue, 28 Dec 2004 16:25:50 +1000, Brian Eable wrote:
>>
>> > couple of years until I changed to Debian. I didn't have any major
>> > problems with any of these installations.
>>
>> If you liked LFS maybe you should try Lunar Linux?
>
> Maybe I should write a perl script to do all the installing and
> compiling for me.
I meant that Lunar has the same idea as LFS but the structure is designed
to permit long-term upgrading/maintenance. And it doesn't all depend on
one guy like Gentoo.
Don't I recall that someone like RH or SuSE provide a scripter that will
remember your installation answers and you can rerun the install over
again?
>> > The laptop is thin and light, which makes it portable unlike some
>> > of those "desktop replacement units", which look like you'd need
>> > a forklift to take them anywhere. With the extended battery, the
>> > computer can operate for a few hours without mains power.
>>
>> How many hours, roughly?
>
> Three or four, about.
That's pretty nice going, it would cover a reasonable train trip.
>> Productivity is measured in units like documents written and projects
>> completed, not in MHz. Most Linux systems seem to be memory bound rather
>> than CPU-limited, unless one is actually rebuilding the kernel a lot.
>
> Oh yeah, I compile a new kernel every day. Don't you?
Normally I don't do it a lot, but I've built about 40 kernels this week so
far.
>> > - quite difficult to take the computer apart to replace the hard
>> > drive - it's like a jigsaw puzzle
>>
>> How's that? All the portables I've taken apart had standard slots for
>> HD units, but maybe I've led a sheltered life.
>
> To change the hard drive on a Sony Z505, you first need to remove the
> about fifteen little screws underneath. Then you need to pull the four
> plastic clips off the screen hinges, and the plastic covers off the
> speaker areas near the hinges. These are really easy to break. After
> that, you have to remove the sticker to reveal the hidden screws under
> there, and take them out. You need to take the keyboard out. You have
> to pry open the magnesium case, and when it's about 20mm open, somehow
> remove the ribbon cable which connects to the trackpad. Keep opening
> the case carefully, until you get it "all the way open" (which I think
> I managed to get about a 150mm gap). Remove the ribbon cable from the
> HD connector, and find the secret screws on the HD rails. Pull out
> the HD, take the rails off, screw them onto the replacement drive.
> Decide whether you want to plug in the ribbon cable to the hard drive
> first and try to screw it down while trying not to dislodge the cable.
> OR to screw the drive down first, and then try to plug in the ribbon
> cable, which is quite difficult because there is no room to move in
> there. Start to close the case again, and then remember to put all
> those other "spare parts" back in, like metal shields and junk. Also
> remember to plug in the trackpad ribbon cable, and it's only about
> 40mm long, and goes from the top of the case to the bottom, so you
> probably wish you had smaller hands about now. Then try to get all the
> little plastic bits back in place, like the plastic surrounds for the
> PCMCIA slot, USB plugs, network plug, hot air outlet, headphones jack.
> They all seem to balance between the top and bottom of the case, so
> you have to get them all in at the same time. Put some screws back in
> and put all those other little plastic bits back on. Put the big pile
> of even more screws back in. Now power up! Does the hard drive work?
> Good. Does the trackpad work? No? Well pull it all apart and make sure
> that little ribbon cable is plugged in properly.
ROFLMAO. Not that I believe a word of it.
> Think about that
> Toshiba laptop somebody showed you where the hard drive slides in and
> out, and you can change it without even a screwdriver.
Heheh. One of mine is a Toshiba. It's just like that.
> It is exceedingly difficult to change the hard drive on a Sony Z505.
It's not gonna be a big advertising slogan for them, no.
>> You could drop the emacses and get back a couple hundred meg....
>
> YOU CAN HAVE MY EMACSES WHEN YOU PRY THEM FROM MY COLD DEAD HARD
> DRIVE!
Keep them if you prefer to remain a permanent victim of the production
paradox.
>> > - Similarly, 2.5MB of video RAM isn't quite enough to run quickly
>> > at 1024 x 768 x 24 bit. It runs fine at 16 bit, but I'd prefer 24
>> > bit.
>>
>> Now Beable, I know you have delicate sensitivities, but I'm
>> skeptical of your ability to see the difference.
>
> Look at 24 bit jpegs on a 16 bit display. You should be able to see
> the areas of colours which don't look quite right.
Some people really are serious about their porn! :-)
>> > - have to carry extra stuff if you need a floppy drive or CD drive
>>
>> Yeah, but how often is that? If it's USB you can normally borrow them
>> on the train.
>
> I never need them. If I have stuff on a CD, I stick it in another
> machine and get it over the network. The only need for a CD drive is
> for booting up a Linux install CD, but even that need I've sidestepped
> using various devices. I think one time I unzipped zipslack on a
> Windows partition, then loadlin'd into it, and built a bootable Linux
> installation from there. Another time I installed off the network.
Prezacktly.
> One day I'll probably try USB pen drives or one of those large and now
> cheap CF cards.
USB keys will be free in cereal packets by about March 05.
>> Or dump emacs and save yourself the trouble.
>
> I've only got about 30MB of emacs, which seems to be worth it.
$20, SAIT?
>> I don't know about the modem (I am writing from the 21st century),
>
> I snagged a couple of PCMCIA modems from ebay, so it's not really
> important. I think a second-hand USR 56k modem cost about $US20.
Just take the wireless card and you can use someone else's bandwidth :-)
>> but some of the HP 5000 range have had good writeups here, and they
>> qualify well under the first few points.
>
> I'm looking at those HPs, and also looking at the IBM T or R series
> thinkpads. I don't think I'd like the X series due to lack of a
> trackpad. I can't use those little pointing sticks as well as a
> trackpad. IBMs do seem to have 3 mouse buttons, and we all know how
> useful that could be.
The mouse-sticks are less intuitive than touchpads, but they are
surprisingly nice to use once one has a little learning time down.
>> All the modern widescreen machines are a bit on the big and heavy side,
>> but that's because the manufacturers believe that most portables stay
>> on the desk for most of their lives.
>
> If I was buying a computer which I was never going to move, I'd get a
> desktop, or a full tower machine.
Well, I have a home full of desktops and I'm always thinking that one day
I should get rid of them and only have wireless portables. Then I can rip
out the cables and when I want some desk space I can bag up a portable.
>> As far as the wireless, note that the degree of Linux compatibility
>> varies widely over wireless chips, and that PCMCIA wireless cards
>> are dirt cheap (I bought one on the high street for under $30 last
>> month). Better to buy one without wireless and pick a PCMCIA card
>> that is known to work with one of the Linux drivers.
>
> I've got a couple of wireless cards, and they both work. I wouldn't
> recommend it for the beginner though, it is a bit complicated to
> get wireless running under Linux.
These days, that really depends on which Linux you mean.
>> Now get back in alt.fan.beable where you belong.
>
> Sorry mister.
That's OK, just give Kibo a kick from me and we're square.
-- Mark South: World Citizen, Net Denizen
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