Re: Duh! B) Re: Problems installing Mandrake on a G4 mac

From: C Lund (clund_at_notam02SPAMBLOCK.no)
Date: 12/13/04 

Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2004 23:45:00 +0100

In article <Xns95BF648E83D56emteedee@130.133.1.4>,
 Mike Dee <emteedee@optushome.com.au> wrote:
> C Lund <clund@notam02SPAMBLOCK.no> wrote in
> news:clund-48F251.14384913122004@amstwist00.chello.com:
> No to choosing hda15 and moving on [just yet]
> >> Reformat your drive for normal Mac use and leave space for Linux
> >> [your spare 19GB] at the end of the drive as Free [not
> >> formatted]. Reinstall your Mac stuff.
> > That would pretty much leave me with the setup I currently have on
> > the HD in question (the second HD is a different matter, but I
> > don't want the Mandrake installer anywhere near it). My Linux
> > partition is last on the partition list, so I assume it's at the
> > end of my drive ...?
> The mandrake installer is quite safe, I've used it several times, it
> will leave any Mac partition alone and automatically partition the free
> space as [assuming the last Mac partition is hda10] hda11 - bootstrap,
> hda12 - root, hda13 - swap, and hda14 - home. Even the custom install
> wants to do this, until you tell it otherwise.

So you're saying it'll leave me with just an OS 9 partition and the
Linux partition? The third backup partition will be wiped?

> > However, how do I leave space as "free"? Disk Utility gives me
> > three options:

> > Mac OS Extended (Journaled)
> > Mac OS Extended
> > UNIX File System

> Don't you get any options on partition sizes? I'm only familiar with
> the Classic Mac "Drive Setup" application. With that prog it was easy
> to choose a Custom partition scheme and format only the amount of drive
> required, leaving xxx space free for another OS.

The current Disk Utility uses the entire HD. If I shrink one
partition, another will increase in size.

> > The Linux partition is currently set to "UNIX File System".
> It is possible to install Linux to a single partition, but it is more
> usual to partition to at least a root, swap, home and maybe usr

> >> Go through this online demo [it's dated but useful]
> >> <http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/demos/PPC/Install/>
> > Certainly. But the problem is that when I come to
> > http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/demos/PPC/Install/Reco/pages/
> > (page 2 in the recommended install)
> Check out the "Expert" install, it's more comprehensive and not all
> that 'expert' it has much better formatting options:
> <http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/demos/PPC/Install/Expert/index.php3>

Ok. I'll check it out.

> > the partitioning options diverge from those in the text-only
> > installer, which I have to use because of video-incompatibilities
> > or something. The only options I have are "Erase entire disk" and
> > "Custom disk partitioning". "Use free space" and "Use existing
> > partition" are not present.
> Well you would certainly choose "Custom" in this instance as you wish
> to keep your existing Mac partitions.

But will I be able to keep a blank partition that has neither OS 9 or
Linux? Or maybe I should just install OS 9 there as well and then
erase it after Linux is in place ...?

> > BTW: There's a more updated version (10.1) of the guide here:
> > http://doc.mandrakelinux.com/MandrakeLinux/100/en/Starter.html/drak
> > x.ht ml
> Thanks. The old guide is still relevant and lot easier to navigate plus
> has great pix - the 'look' of DrakX has changed to reflect the times
> but basically it's still the same.

> One thing though; In your attempts at getting a GUI install, did you
> try the argument "install-novideo"? which gives basic, framebuffer
> video support (graphical install), as opposed to "install-text"?

No, that one I did not try. I'll give it a shot the next time I do
this. B)

> By what method is your display attached to the G4? I believe there are
> 2 types of connection you can choose? I seem to recall reading about an
> incompatibility with Linux PPC and nVidia drivers, as to getting an X
> display via one of the connection types or even accelerated 3D. I've
> been trying to dig something up via Google but so far no luck.

Uhh... It's attached the standard way for a stock Quicksilver G4...
whatever that means... It's an nVidia in an AGP slot.

Are you saying I might not be able to get accelerated 3d with Linux on
my system? 

-- 
C Lund, www.notam02.no/~clund

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