Re: Urgent Requirement for Linux Developers!
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Date: 06/01/05
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Date: 1 Jun 2005 12:07:16 GMT
In comp.os.linux.development.system Josef Moellers <josef.moellers@fujitsu-siemens.com> wrote:
| phil-news-nospam@ipal.net wrote:
|> In comp.os.linux.development.system Arun Prasad Velu <arun_linux@yahoo.com> wrote:
|>
|> | http://ecoustics-cnet.com.com/U.S.+slips+lower+in+coding+contest/2100-1022_3-5659116.html
|>
|> The fact remains that Indian programmers are cheaper. The reason is
|> not based on the quality of the work, but rather, on the economics of
|> the country.
|>
|> The results do not mean that Americans are not as good at programming.
|> They just mean that programming is no longer good enough for Americans.
|> Americans don't like cheap grunt work that gets no respect from their
|> employers. So they seek other career paths instead of computer science.
|> So there are simply fewer Americans to go compete in these contests.
|
| I miss the smilies or irony-indicators here.
There aren't any.
| I sincerely doubt that it is the employees that reject programming work.
| Rather, a worker in a developing country earns only a fraction of what a
| worker in a developed country earns and needs to earn in order to pay
| for the expensive goods (s)he needs (and wants, see below) for a living.
You mean like food? It's cheap in India. So is housing.
| If a worker in a developing country costs 10% of what a worker in a
| developed country costs (environmental issues, working environment,
| competition on the market for work), it pays to hire several of the
| former to replace one of the latter, raising the earnings of the
| employer, making the shareholders happy, keeping the CEO in office and
| earning him an extra million or two as a bonus fee.
That does happen.
| OTOH, people (employees) don't like to pay lots of money for the goods
| they want, so buying a product produced cheaply in a developing country
| is "cool" (there's a commercial slogan here in Germay "Geiz ist geil")
| and allows them to buy it early (or buy it at all). Why wait ten years
| or more to be able to buy a product you produce yourself while it may
| only take 5 years to buy a similar product produced in a developing country?
That happens, too.
The combination of these things brings the level of the economies together.
It raises that of India and China (something they clearly want and will be
good for them). But it lowers the economies of countries like Germany and
the United States (because more and people people are out of work, lowering
the wages everyone gets). In a few decades, it will level out, with India
being as economically powerful as Germany, if not more so.
| > Far more respect in development, programming, or coding, can be gotten
| > by doing free open source projects, than in working in a cubicle farm.
|
| But the latter pays for my lunch (and that of my wife and my children),
| while the former maybe earns me a beer or two at the next open source
| conference.
And it takes an increasing number of hours just to pay for one lunch, until
the price of lunch gets lowered.
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