Re: Ways to keep my Debian box updated over dial-up (3 KB/sec)?
From: E. Charters (echarters_at_sympatico.ca)
Date: 02/04/05
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Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 20:45:28 -0500
You just encapulated in a golden nutshell why millions of people do not
run Debian. Not to be snide, but the real answer to your question is:
who cares?! (I almost threw a debian server box through a window that
hung me up ona software upgrade with its apt-get and select nonsense.
Like downloading a tar-gz file and gunzipping, detarring and making it
or using pkgtool is a fog of difficulty. Compared to apt-get's hurricane
of opaqueness, slack is a gentle zephyr from the oasis of clarity.
Apt-get sort of speciously makes you believe that Debian is upgradeable.
In practice that is not true. It won't work. It's a come-on.
EC<:-}
ANTant@zimage.com wrote:
> Someone told me to look at apt-zip and apt-move commands, but he/she
> didn't know how to use them (just read about them). I downloaded those
> two packages and ran them. I looked at their help with "man" command, but
> I am still puzzled on how to use them for my dial-up issue.
>
> What am I supposed to do with them?
# use them as an excuse to use a different distribution. Slackware?
I assume I want to use apt-zip:
> "These scripts simplify the process of using dselect and apt on a non-
> networked Debian box, using removable media like ZIP floppies. One
> generates a `fetch' script (supporting backends such as wget and lftp, in
> a modular, extensible way) to be run on a host with better connectivity,
> check space constraints of your removable media, and then install the
> package on your Debian box."
# a snap. Let me know when you graduate, and if you got that done by then.
# actually it would work. A bash script to automate wget or an expect
script would download a list. It is not that truly hard to do that in
perl either. If you can write the simple open and load script it might
work in background. Connect scripts need a bit of testing as the state
of the download program needs to be known.
>
> I am at a loss on how to start this. I assume it is like run these scripts
> on my Debian box after doing apt-get update (30+ minutes), copy the list
> of locations to download, go to a Windows box with broadband connection
> like at work, run the wget to download all the packages, burn them to CD
> or copy to USB Flash drives/sticks, then run apt-get upgrade from the CD
> or USB Flash drives/sticks. Is that how it supposed to work?
# you could do that. It might work.
# actually it is supposed to work directly over the net after a debian
boot. But it will hang on software it does not want to install, for
reasons that are too mysterious to describe.
>
> Sorry if I sound like a newbie/novice which I am. ;) Thank you in advance.
Try red hat. Try slackware. There is no law against self abuse, but it
feels soooo good when you quit.
EC<:-}
>
>
> In comp.os.linux.setup ANTant@zimage.com wrote:
>
>>Hello!
>
>
>>I noticed apt-get update takes forever to download (30+ minutes). Just
>>for kicks, I saw many MB to download for apt-get upgrade. It was about
>>250 MB would be 25 hours nonstop (woah).
# right. so use the neighbour's broadband,
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