Re: copying dvd's to hard drive

From: Alan Connor (alanconnor_at_earthlink.net)
Date: 09/13/03 

Date: Sat, 13 Sep 2003 20:49:02 GMT

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 22:12:25 +0200, Anton Erasmus <junk@junk.net> wrote:
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>>Alan C
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> Nowhere did I say that I think stealing DVDs / CDs / Software etc. is
> morally correct. My point is that the legal conditions applied by the
> entertainment industry are so restrictive that in many cases that very
> simple usage of a product may be in a strict sense illegal. For
> instance: Most DVDs that are sold, it is legal for non-commercial
> private exhibition in homes only. (From a Sony DVD I bought).
>
> In the strictest sense this implies you are not even allowed to watch
> it at work on your computer.

Okay. Then don't buy it.

And if you are watching movies at work, then I wonder if your employer
knows this.....

 If one takes the strictest meaning of
> most of these restrictions, it basically means that there are many
> perfecttly natural situations where it would be illegal to use the
> product one bought. This is a far cry from stealing.

Okay. It's breach of contract. Still unethical.

 I personally make
> copies of my CDs for use in my car. No one else listens or uses the
> originals. This I do in case a CD gets damaged in my car (Which has
> happend). By my use of a copy, I could throw away the damaged copy,
> and just make a new one. From your arguments, I should used the
> original, and when it got damaged I would have had to buy a new copy
> even though the shipping alone to South Africa is approx US$30.

Man, you just don't GET it.

Here's what you are saying: " I don't steal unless it is convenient, or
unless the price of what I want to buy is too high."

That's pathetic.

>
> Borrowing a copy from someone else and making a copy is theft pure and
> simple. Morally and legally wrong. Making a backup copy might or might
> not be illegal, but I do not consider it immoral or unethical.
>
> Also I do not pre judge that anyone asking for information with which
> they might break the law, automatically will and want to do so.
>
> If someone asked you to teach them to drive a car, I assume you would
> refuse because the person might speed, and hence break the law ? If
> one follows the entertainment industry logic and apply it to the car
> example above, car manufacturers should be force to limit their cars
> to go no faster than the allowed speed limit.
>

An excellent idea. Try driving over the speed limit in the State of
Illinois and you will get a hefty ticket.

I'd make it possible to go over the speed limit, but have the event
logged and require the person to justify the event or get a ticket.

Only emergency situations would be acceptable. REAL emergencies.

I should have known you were one of those people who make the roads so
dangerous and unpleasant.

> Regards
> Anton
>
>

I won't ever do business with you. Not unless you change.

Alan C 

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