Re: XP and Fedora on HP
From: Xiaoyi Wu (wxy_at_kivera.com)
Date: 03/10/04
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Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 20:00:01 GMT
"Douglas Mayne" <doug@SLACKWARE-3.localnet> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 10 Mar 2004 07:59:20 +0000, Xiaoyi Wu wrote:
>
> > I bought an HP a450y with only a CD-ROM and no floppy. (I have a Dell
PC
> > with everything.) HP does not give me the Windows XP CDs, instead, I
get
> > the 8-disc recovery CDs. But if I use it to install XP, I am not given
the
> > option to partition the disk to install the Linux. Fine, I installed
> > another disk, and installed the Fedora on the second disk and GRUB on
MBR.
> > When rebooted, if I choose Fedora, no problem; if I choose DOS, it
complains
>
> What do you mean DOS? I thought you said XP. AFAIK, XP uses the NT
> loader (which I have worked with successfully):
I guess all versions of Windows looks like DOS to Red Hat Linux. During
Fedora installation, the GRUB setup says there is a DOS partition, and
offered that as another boot option. When reboot, there are two options:
Fedora core (kernel version), and DOS (which means Windows XP).
>
> > that MBR is corrupted, and the only option is to recover. And it very
> > conveniently did it because everything on the recovery CDs are right
> > there on a hidden D drive, and GRUB is gone.
>
> Sounds like the hidden drive could be part of the problem in starting XP
> from grub. Post your partition tables.
>
The hidden drive (D:) is the HP's way of installing (their version of) XP.
During installation, they don't ask for anything related to partition, but
automatically create an 6GB hidden D: drive, and rest of the disk as C:
drive, and copy all eight HP recovery CDs to the D: drive. They claim that
later on, if you need to install any previously uninstalled component, you
don't have to search up and down for those misplaced CDs, since everything
is right there on the hidden partition. From within XP, the disk 0 has two
partitions, HP_RECOVERY (D:) 5.52GB FAT32 Healthy, HP_PAVILION (C:) 108.98GB
NTFS Healthy (System). This is how the computer comes with. I also have
re-installed from the recovery CDs, and this is also the only results I can
get.
Is it possible that the GRUB does not know that the XP is actually on the
second partition, and try to boot of the first partition (D:)?
> >
> > Does anyone know what I can do in XP to make it not complain about
> > "corrupted" MBR? Failing that, since I don't have floppy, is it
> > possible to make a bootable CD, similar to the bootable floppy, so I can
> > just put in the CD and boot to Linux? Much faster than floppy too!
>
> Maybe, but I think you system can be configured for dual boot by just
> using the dual hard disks.
>
I would prefer that too.
> >
> > P.S. I did find an article on the web
> > http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html and followed
it,
>
> The method shown there uses the NT MBR loader to boot linux. It is an
option,
> but usually I prefer using grub at the MBR.
>
> > but it's not working. One requirement there that I am not meeting is
> > that /boot has to be on the same drive as the NTLDR on MBR. But HP's
> > recovery does not allow me to create another partition on the master
> > disk.
> >
> > Thanks for any help!
> >
> > Xiaoyi
> >
>
> Caveat: I am not running Windows XP.
>
> Post more specific information. Did you remove one drive from your system
> while setting up, or something similar?
No, I just added another slave disk to the existing master disk. The second
time I re-installed XP with two disks in it, everything goes automatically
the same way on the master disk, and the slave is not touched. When I
installed the Fedora, everything (several partitions) is on the slave disk,
with the 8GB / partition (I didn't create a separate /root partition) on the
first (hdb1).
>
> Because you have two drives, the best approach is to install your Windows
> drive as the primary master IDE drive. The linux drive can be the primary
> slave, or secondary master. How is your system setup (physically)?
The BIOS setup says I have three channels, a Maxtor on the first master, a
Seagate on the first slave, a Samsung CD-ROM on the second master. All
others are none.
>
> Assuming that Windows is on your primary master drive, you should be able
> to change the loader /*if*/ you only modify the MBR loader code on that
> drive. Leave the boot partitions on that drive alone.
>
> Grub should have something like this, specific partition information is
> variable:
>
> title Windows XP
> rootnoverify (hd0,0)
> makeactive
> chainloader +1
> title Linux
> root (hd1,0)
> kernel /boot/vmlinuz ro root=/dev/hdc1
Where can I find this information? and how should I change it to make mine
work?
>
> Post your partition tables.
On XP side, besides that D: and C: drive on disk 0, there are several
unknown partition on disk 1 (those are Linux partitions). On Linux side,
there are hdb1 as /, hdb7 as /data, none as /dev/shm (I think this is the
same as hdb1), /hdb5 as /exp, hdb3 as /home, hdb2 as /next. These are from
the df command. What's missing here are hdb4 is the extended partition, and
hdb6 is swap partition. The entire Linux OS is on hdb1.
>
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Xiaoyi
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