Re: bad blocks in under 2.5 years! So much for HP ...

From: Ben Myers (_at_)
Date: 11/03/05

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    Date: Thu, 03 Nov 2005 22:23:52 GMT
    
    

    Fujitsu and Seagate seem to have the best reputations for 2.5" drive
    reliability. Hitachi's reputation is mixed of late. Toshiba is well regarded
    by some, but I have serious difficulty recommending a drive when the drive
    manufacturer does not even supply diagnostics which you can download and run in
    the field. All the others do, as do the major manufacturers of 3.5" drives.

    Ask the shop doing the repair to give you the failing drive so you can tell us
    what brand it is. Better yet, honestly, this falls into the DIY category of
    repair. Hard drives can be removed easily from nearly all brands of notebooks
    and replaced. They are usually in a small drive carrier attached with 4 tiny
    Philips head screws and often have a little adapter that slides over the pins on
    the drive. All the name brands above are built with the same physical form
    factor and electronic interface, so they are all commodity items... Ben Myers

    On 3 Nov 2005 12:24:39 -0800, "milkyway" <d0mufasa@hotmail.com> wrote:

    >Hello all and thanks sooooooooooooo much for responding ;-P
    >
    >To the questions:
    >
    >>>You did apply all patches, including kernel?
    >I did not apply any patches to the kernel at all. When doing the uname
    >-a on the system, what I have written above is what I got. I have been
    >using straight what was out of the SuSe Box.
    >
    >>> The problem might be well related to reiserfs, have seen it
    >
    >>>Same here, although I admit there seems to be a lot less complaining about
    >>>reiserfs generally in message traffic I read than just a couple years ago.
    >
    >>>Still, I ask for ext2 or ext3 when I do installs, myself. It's good enough
    >>>for my general purposes, although some folks really swear by reiser. There
    >>>is much to be said for choice, and especially in Linux/FOSS. :)
    >
    >When I had made the partitions, I thought they were of the fstype of
    >ext2 - or something for Linux altogether, I had no idea that this
    >reiserfs was involved at all until I had looked at the error messages
    >
    >>>In the long run, your best bet is to replace the defective hard disk.
    >>>Frequently, once a drive begins developing bad blocks, the damage is
    >>>progressive -- new bad blocks will continue to crop up until the disk is
    >>>so damaged that it can't be used at all.
    >
    >That is what I am in the process of doing. I took it to a shop near
    >where I live. The person
    >said that they would work on saving the data but I had saved what I
    >wanted onto these small
    >disks you plug into the USB ports. Anywho, I have 3 of them and I saved
    >what I wanted on
    >2 of them (duplication). The only I did not save were my database files
    >but the DB was
    >so small, I think it can be reproduced.
    >
    >My concern now is contacting the guy tomorrow and telling him not to
    >worry about saving
    >the data and to just focus on replacing (successfully) the disk drive.
    >
    >>>Actually, I prefer SCSI anyway because I do some IO intensive
    >>>database stuff where the ability to run drives simultaneously to avoid seek
    >>>contention and to queue commands is important.
    >
    >I am on the hunt for a new computer just in case the things with this
    >laptop don't work.
    >I am just looking for something to finish my project with - so - I am
    >thinking I will save the SCSI approach for later.
    >
    >>>What brand of drive is it, anyway? I'm still trying to figure out which make of
    >>>notebook drive has respectable reliability, which seems to be sliding downhill
    >>>everyday
    >
    >I don't know the brand. I just took it in today for repair. Again, I
    >need to contact the
    >guy and just ask him to replace the drive altogether.
    >
    >Question: Is there a stable brand of hard disk that I should shoot for?
    >Any to
    >avoid? ANY type of advice on this point would be great!
    >
    >>>Here is one possible solution:
    >>>[snip]
    >>>4) you can now mount that backupfile via the loop device and recover the
    >>>data on another computer or new hard disk.
    >
    >The thing is, I can mount the partitions. I used the Suse Emergency
    >Recovery approach and was able to get into a mode where I could mount,
    >etc. I was able to mount the partition that was causing me issues. When
    >running the "badblocks" command, several blocks were listed.
    >
    >Again, I was able to mount the partition though. Could that mean
    >something? I had read that if one was able to write to the blocks, then
    >somehow the problem would correct itself. There were several blocks.
    >Right now, I don't have the system with me - it is at the shop -
    >
    >TIA
    >


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