dialogue with newsgroup megalomaniacs (change of Subject)


Please read below for my collective response to recent posts on this
topic.

First a repeat of my suggestion:

"Anytime you feel you are in a position to answer a question, but
don't
feel like doing so because you don't like the way it is asked. either
ignore it, or put the poster on your ignore filter!, Spare everyone
the
banality of reading how you got to be such an expert, and how
everybody
else should pay their dues like you have. "

Now the replies:


>
> How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
>

see Suggestion

>
> You must first learn the basics of newsgroup etiquette and ethics.
> Your uninformed tirade is off-topic and the spamming you support is
> unethical.
>

A newsgroup is a public forum, similar to a street corner. The ethics
and etiquette that you talk about is your own misunderstood context
you have attached to this public space. You are the over-zealous
homeless who takes ownership of a street corner, not knowing that
it in fact belongs to everybody.

>
> You must learn that those who make statements using nothing but
> capital letters are often and justifiably abused. It is a failed
> attempt to provide emphasis.

Again with your self-imposed rules and blind observations....

>
>
> Understand that newsgroups are for discussion. No usenet subscriber
> has any right to an answer to any "question". If the problem is
> urgent, paid support is available.


See my Suggestion.

>
> Virtually all subscribers will ignore your request to spam. Quite
> some time ago, the newsgroup news.newusers.questions was created to
> help dispel misunderstands such as yours about usenet; subscribe to it
> and read the articles before proffering another rant.
>

My post has been effective in smoking out the megalomaniacs who claim
to know better than other what is best for a public forum. The silent
majority is with me.

>
> You need to learn that some of us filter on inappropriate cross-posts. If
> you choose to reply to such spam then please continue the cross-posting so
> that we will not be bothered by your puerile discussions.

Thanks for following my Suggestion.

>
> No, it does not, especially in c.o.l.setup. It is completely off-topic.
>

This is completely on-topic. As it discusses a topic vital to the
usefulness
of this and other groups.


>
> 1) Newsgroups have rules. Those rules in general are agreed upon by the
> participants; if a poster follows the rules then they shouldn't have any
> problems.

Correction: a newsgroup is a public forum. There are no rules. There
are
SUGGESTIONS that people who have been around for sometime get to know.
And if a poster follows the rules, you are the one who doesn't have any
problems.

>
> 2) Responders spend their own time replying to posters, if the responder
> wants to spend that time giving a full and complete answer or referncing a
> webpage, previous thread or whatever then that is entirely up to them.

A good point in general, but spending time to flame someone instead of
answering a question, is a total waste of everybody's time.


> 3) If you as an individual don't like a particular responders responses
> then
> ignore them, or as an extreme killfile them.

Thanks for agreeing with me.

>
> 4) It's a general truism in life that you get what you pay for, if your
> lucky, with NGs you pay nothing for a massive resource of experience if
> you don't like what you get then essentially hard luck, you can then fall back
> on the resoure of working it out for yourself and doing your own research.

EXACTLY! The megalomaniacs on this and other boards are here because
they can
afford buying a computer and pay for internet connection fees. This
gives
them no right to impose rules on anyone else.

>
>
> In summary your posting is the most selfish, self-serving plea I have ever
> seen and displays a staggeringly woeful lack of perception as to what
> newsgroups are about. If you don't like it here then don't come. If you
> think ther is a better way to answer OPs then do it, but don't stand there
> with your hand out for favours and then complain because you don't get
> exactly what you want.

My post is neither selfish nor self-serving. I can perhaps answer more
questions
than receive answers. I wrote this post because I was responding to a
question on this newgroup, and some idiot had posted prior to me
complaining
that the person asking the question had posted on multiple
newsgroups.....
I can't imagine the swollen head that led to such a complaint!!!!!!

Think of my post as a society elder bringing attention to a much
deserved
problem.

>
> You're entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to ignore it.
>

Thanks for following my Suggestion.

>
> Most of the responses to this point to your OP have been pretty
> reasonable, civil, and polite. But I will try to summarize thusly:
>
> *** you! No one here is being paid to answer your questions.

Dear Mr. JDS:
There is no reason to bring to this newsgroup the type of language
your father used during your numerous one-on-one molestation sessions
he had with you as a youngster, and the type you eithr are or will
be using with your children during your sessions with them.

>
> Then why did you crosspost it to Access and Sendmail newsgroups?

Because these are other newsgroups I have used in the recent past with
its own megalomaniacs wreaking havoc with its usefulness.

>
> Good advice. *PLOINK!* Good luck getting help from Alan Connor.
>

I don't personally know Mr. Alan Connor, but if he is a socially inept
enough megalomaniac to take offense in what I write, then I prefer
that he puts me on his ignore list.

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