Re: _X11TransSocketUNIXConnect ... Sell me on Linux

From: Dances With Crows (danSPANceswitTRAPhcrows_at_usa.net)
Date: 02/21/04

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    Date: 21 Feb 2004 00:53:21 GMT

    On 20 Feb 2004 12:29:44 -0800, John Campbell staggered into the Black
    Sun and said:
    > Dances with Crows wrote:
    >> "I don't understand what you mean by "download the means of
    >> downloading". You can take any machine with Net access, download the
    >> Knoppix ISO, then use any CD-burning program to make a Knoppix CD
    >> from that ISO. "
    > Times have changed. Before I picked up the RH & SuSe CDs -- and for
    > that matter as recently as a year ago -- I did not have a CD burner.
    > Now I do, and the means of downloading is ... Windows XP. That's an
    > option, but it is not really a selling point.

    You gotta start somewhere. Remember, very early builds of Linux itself
    had to be built under Minix. I used Windows NT to download a Mandrake
    ISO back in 1999; would've worked fine if the guy burning the CD hadn't
    picked the wrong options while burning the CD. (I got a CD with one
    649M file on it called "Mandrake6.iso".)

    > Just as part of the current installation was to hand-copy system
    > information that I knew only because Windows told me.

    Hardware detection/configuration has improved dramatically since the
    1999-2000 era your distros came from. X 4.n uses DDC to query the
    monitor--no need to enter Hsync and Vsync values, no need to calculate
    modelines in most cases. X 3.n didn't do that.

    >> "You don't want to write an XF86Config file just using vim."
    > No. But I do already have the bulk of one, evidently flawed, that can
    > be edited, if I know what I'm looking for. Granted, I don't, and
    > that's why I am here.

    Post this flawed XF86Config file somewhere on your webspace and include
    a URL in your followup. If you don't have a webspace, you can mail it
    to me (mind the spamtrap) and I'll see what I can do. It's been forever
    since I've looked at an XF86Config from 3.n, but it'll come back to me.

    >> "X always writes a log file matching /var/log/XFree86*.log . Look
    > I looked. No such file(s).

    ? Weird. Maybe they changed this between XFree86 3 and 4. I know X
    wrote a logfile out even in version 3.3.3.1, but I can't remember the
    exact name of the file it wrote and went with the name that X 4.n uses.

    > James wrote:
    >> "Take a look at /tmp, in particular .X11-unix. and first field for
    >> .X11-unix should be like the one above. You may not have a
    >> .X11-unix/X0 file, tho."
    > Again, no such file. No such directory.

    Grr. How annoying.

    > Franz wrote::
    >> "Maybe you should consider using the tool xf86config (running it as
    >> root). ... it's nice compared to vi.."
    > Been there, done that, with two different distros. To no avail. A
    > tool that consistently produces an unusable file does not strike me as
    > nice.

    IRA Darth Aggie (IIRC) suggested looking at the pages on file for the
    Gateway Solo 2100 for XF86COnfig files. I did that, but the 2 pages
    linked from linux-on-laptops.com didn't have this information.
    Apparently Redhat 6.1 just brought up X without problems for both the
    posters.

    > Looks like I am being told that I have the wrong distros for the wrong
    > machine. It also looks as if I needed to make this inquiry two failed
    > installations ago, as I suspect I've now got Red Hat stuff installed
    > on top of SuSe stuff.

    Whoa. That isn't good. Try the installation again--I recommend the
    Redhat CD, since ISTR Redhat 6.1 was a bit newer than SuSE 6.1.

    > Back then, I was attempting a dual-boot installation, and I did not
    > have the disk space for the full-bore install-everything options. I
    > figured the blame was in skimping on the installation.

    Not for this particular problem. There's a lot of stuff you can
    install, but the basic X server and a minimal X environment takes ~70M
    and should work on most things. To get any real work done, you'll want
    a better window manager than the minimal twm, but I found KDE 1 pretty
    slow on a Thinkpad 380D (P150, 48M, 2G disk).

    > I might have to come back after I've thoroughly wiped this
    > installation and started again with one or the other. ... I figure my
    > best bet is the Red Hat.

    Aye. Move any data you want to save, and have the installer format the
    partition--not "format and check", which takes too long.

    > I'll also look into Knoppix, which I'd have to mail-order or grab over
    > a dial-in.

    E-mail your local LUG and ask if anybody has a Knoppix CD. Last LUG
    meeting I attended, 3 or 4 people had them, and several machines had
    CD-RWs. Hope the Redhat install works this time! 

    -- 
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