Re: Two video cards ... separate text and graphical usage

phil-news-nospam@xxxxxxxx staggered into the Black Sun and said:
Dances With Crows wrote:
phil-news-nospam@xxxxxxxx staggered into the Black Sun and said:
2. Use two video cards. The old card would be used for text mode
and the new card would be used for X.
3. Get a dual-head video card, set it up with separate Screens. Run
your normal X junk on :0.0, run a maximized xterm (konsole, aterm,
gnome-terminal...) on :0.1. It'd probably be easier
Actually, I have a dual-head card. The trouble is, it is AGP and my
new computer has PCIe instead of AGP.

Oops. Keeping up with the new buses on boards can be a pain if you like
to hang on to old peripherals. BTDTGTTS.

None of them explained how to use one for text mode (not frame
buffer) and the other for X in graphical mode.
Hardly anyone wants to do that, because X is where it's at for 99.5% of
the users. http://linuxconsole.sourceforge.net/ , however, might be
worth looking at.
I'll check it out. X is where it's at for graphical work, and I do
use X a lot. But for heavy duty text work, the text console has still
not been beaten by any program I've seen in X. Is there something
better than xterm that does do better at text?

I've never had any problem with any of the term emulators and their
handling of text. Then again, I type a little slower than many hardcore
people. konsole works well for me in everything, but YMMV.

would you be prepared to assist in making text under X work exactly
the same under X as it does in console text mode? I'm not sure it
is even possible. But if it is, it might involve a lot of work,
such as rewriting xterm to use acceleration, and changing the mouse
behaviour.
Why would xterm need to handle mouse acceleration?
The acceleration I referred to is not the mouse acceleration.

Ah. Your initial complaint was kinda vague.

The acceleration of concern is with things like fast scrolling of
text. The text console can do this very fast by avoiding copying of
data and just changing the scan starting point. And what copying is
being done to move new lines into the screen is in characters, not
pixels. So it can go very fast and minimizes blocking of programs
that spew out a lot of output.

If your programs are writing lots of junk to stdout, why not redirect
that stdout to a file? Also, the Athena widgets used in xterm are
really, really lightweight, and scrolling/bitblitting should have been
heavily optimized within the X module itself. From what I can tell, the
vast amount of stdout produced by "emerge world" delivered through the
much heavier konsole doesn't cause the CPU or graphics card much pain.
I'm not exactly running a state-of-the-art box either (Athlon XP 3500,
1G, GeForce 7100 GS.)

There are also other details like when doing double and triple
clicking to highlight words or lines, this doesn't work as desired.
The list of characters that are considered to end a word and not
spread the highlight need to be changed.

"man xterm" and grep for "character classes" for how to change that
behavior in xterm. That's in Settings->Configure konsole->General in
konsole.

I hope you get a clearer understanding of what I am doing, now.

A bit, but I've never had the problems you're having. HTH anyway,

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