Re: Two video cards ... separate text and graphical usage

On 29 Jan 2008 15:19:33 GMT Dances With Crows <danceswithcrows@xxxxxxx> wrote:
| phil-news-nospam@xxxxxxxx staggered into the Black Sun and said:
|> Dances With Crows wrote:
|>> If your programs are writing lots of junk to stdout, why not redirect
|>> that stdout to a file?
|> I do want to see the output. I don't have to be able to read every line
|> to be able to get an idea what it does.
|
| Pipe it through grep, then.

Seeing the volume of output is often what is telling. Seeing patterns
in all that output can be informative. Sometimes piping through grep
for specific data is hopeful. Often not.

Really, being about to let it "fly" is necessary many times. Today's
text console is WAY faster than it used to be a decade and a half ago
when I first started using Linux. And back then I noted that it was
a lot faster on Linux than on Solaris (crippled by a frame buffer).

Today, I'm sure in X it is faster than a text console was back then.
And maybe it is adequately fast enough now. And maybe it can be made
a bit faster with some optimization, or means to use GPU acceleration
(e.g. use a GPU buffer copy to do scroll).


|>>> There are also other details like when doing double and triple
|>>> clicking to highlight words or lines, this doesn't work as desired.
|>> "man xterm" and grep for "character classes" for how to change that
|>> behavior in xterm.
|> I'd prefer a config file so I can keep the setting.
|
| xterm, like most old X apps, *has* a config file. It uses X resources
| to store information. X resource information is commonly found in
| ~/.Xdefaults , and is of the form $PROGRAM.$CATEGORY.$SUBCATEGORY:
| setting. This is not the way most new users want to do things, but it
| does work and has persisted through tradition and inertia.

I've always found that method hard to work with from an administrative
position.


|> One problem I have with X is that when I move the cursor over some
|> text, and try to highlight some text, it usually misses the first
|> character even though I clearly am on that character. I have to move
|> the cursor to in front of the character to be able to highlight it.
|> That I find to be very awkward.
|
| This is how practically every text-using app has worked since the days
| of MacOS in the 1980s. People like the I-beam and it's become a de
| facto standard.

I might be able to get used to it *IFF* the character it is over when
the highlighting begins is the first character to be highlighted. But
it seems the logic is to have it start highlighting only when it hits
the boundary between letters (and hence will miss the first letter I
had it on unless I had it at exactly the left edge of that letter).

Also, quite often the last character is missed. I've wanted it invert
the characters as I highlight them, including the last, and then just
unhighlight the last as I let off.


|> The cursor is a shape of a narrow and tall letter "I". I want a
|> cursor that is a block that fully covers a character and is fully
|> aligned with it (e.g. moves in steps of character cells).
|
| It'll be easier for you to change your behavior than for you to change
| this aspect of the terminal emulator you're using.

Where is that aspect coded? Maybe that is not true. I do know many apps
do change the shape of the pointer object when moved over that app. So it
should be possible with a hacked xterm, too. I just need some assistance
by someone that knows where these things are.

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