Re: New install of Linux and Windows Xp
From: maddman (maddman_75_at_yahoo.com)
Date: 05/26/04
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Date: 26 May 2004 10:41:27 -0700
rhjaisingh@yahoo.com (Raj.) wrote in message news:<444a770.0405260421.3886455c@posting.google.com>...
> pandora_xero@hotmail.com (Pandora Xero) wrote in message news:<390dc7e9.0405252155.1ec524ae@posting.google.com>...
> > > mandrake can resize the eXPensive
> > > partition down to make room for mandrake.
> > are you sure you can do that without data loss? most of the time,
> > resizing requires all data to be erased... and I not too cool with the
> > fact that its a recovery CD...
> >
> > As far as installation order, you would install the most supportive
> > (Linux) last. With Partition types, you CAN use NTFS, but its a bit
> > buggy still in Linux, as Micro$oft has not decided on a single NTFS
> > configuration. In my experiences with Mandrake, eXPensive NTFS seems
> > well-supported (mdk 9.x and 10.0) If at all possible, install Mandrake
> > 10.0 Official, because it has their custom kernel source with it.
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> OK, thanks everyone. A slight change...more questions.
>
> Should I leave Windows 2000 on and not put XP on the box ? I am not
> familiar with any version of Windows to be able to make a decision.
Personally, I would probably not mess with XP. They aren't too
different under the hood. In fact if you go to Help->About in windows
explorer, 2k comes back as 'windows 5.0' and XP comes back as 'windows
5.1'
I don't personally feel that XP is worth the upgrade if you have 2k.
>
> Mandrake 10.0 Official has not arrived yet. I have the option of
> Debian or Mandrake. Any advantages/disadvantages with these ? ANy
> other versions of Linux to get my feet wet as a beginner ?
I like mandrake a lot. Its pretty, and the mandrake control center
does a top notch job of letting you set everything up.
>
> What is NTFS ? What is FAT32 ? I understand File systems (File
> allocation tables), but what would be the different if I should put on
> XP using one and not the other ?
THese are the types of file systems. NTFS is the newer kind, but MS
keeps changing things in it and support for it in linux is buggy at
best. FAT32 is older and has more problems with fragmentiation, but
works very well with linux.
I would set things up like this. One partition for linux, using ext3
or whatever the default for your distro is. One NTFS partition
containing windows and your core programs. A third FAT32 partition
where you keep data. This way you have the more reliable windows file
system for your 2k/xp install, but still have full access to your data
in linux.
>
> Someone did tell me to refrain from loading XP at all. I am thinking
> on those lines now. But if I install Mandrake 10.0 and later need to
> put on XP (just because the sky maybe a certain color), can I do it ?
> Wait, didn't someone also say XP should be loaded first ?
>
> Please write :-)
>
> Thanks again,
> Raj.
Here's the deal. When your computer boots up, it goes to a special
section of your hard drive to decide how to boot up. This is the
master boot record, or MBR.
With linux, the MBR loads up a bootloader, generally programs called
LILO or GRUB. Either of these nowadays are pretty smart, and if other
operating systems are already there they create menu entries for them.
So you can select to boot into Windows, Linux, or whatever other OS
you prefer.
Now, MS has a different philosophy. That is anything but a MS
operating system is irrelevent. When Windows is installed, the same
menu is created but any non-MS operating systems are not put on the
menu.
So if you install Linux then windows, you'll lose your little menu and
be unable to boot into linux at all.
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