Re: More Active Newsgroups?

From: Moe Trin (ibuprofin_at_painkiller.example.tld)
Date: 07/18/05


Date: Sun, 17 Jul 2005 19:45:45 -0500

In the Usenet newsgroup comp.os.linux, in article
<2337362.ignrTtGhBP@linux.user.and.happy>, CWO4 Dave Mann wrote:

>I notice that the misc group has 75K articles (and I am still wading
>through them reading each thread that looks interesting).

That sounds as if your news server has excellent retention, or doesn't
drop garbage posts (ponzi scams, really gross cross-posting, or spam).
For 'giganews' thus far this year, the article counts per month look like
this (figures to 17 July 1500UTC):

2005 c.o.l.hardware c.o.l.m c.o.l.n c.o.l.setup c.o.l c.o.l.help
Jan 645 3064 2383 1110 162 69
Feb 754 2270 1145 1029 270 52
Mar 837 2090 1176 745 841 154
Apr 614 2179 1073 601 439 69
May 699 3053 1030 488 120 90
Jun 628 2433 852 567 163 67
Jul 343 1191 478 320 53 28

       c.o.l.security alt.linux alt.os.linux a.o.l.mandrake a.o.l.suse
Jan 427 579 1789 5253 3428
Feb 274 506 1310 4850 3773
Mar 417 444 1484 5049 4625
Apr 442 605 1141 4212 3645
May 496 369 1205 4324 2993
Jun 209 380 1711 3091 2322
Jul 200 244 1017 1506 1547

This is before my killfile kicks in. (Don't know what caused the blips in
March and April in c.o.l - my killfile hit 122/847 and 31/439). c.o.l.m
and a.o.l have been subject to some light to moderate trolling this year,
while the a.o.l.m and a.o.l.s groups seem to have more than their fair
share of childish posts year round. I scan those groups only, and may only
actually read less than one _thread_ in 50 in both groups. Red Hat (being
one of the more dominant distributions for a long time) has two hierarchies
(linux.redhat.* which were mirrors of Red Hat mailing lists, and redhat.*)
in addition to alt.linux.redhat, alt.os.linux.redhat, and the bogus group
comp.os.linux.redhat, so articles are scattered (thinly) over a large number
of groups.

>Bottom line I want a "continuing education". My books and box building will
>only go so far before I run into some dumbass mistake that I can't figure
>out that 100's have already fixed.

That's what http://groups.google.com is for. If you need answers or hints,
like the old Ronzoni spaghetti sauce commercials "It's in there".

>This group we are on seems like a nice sedate group for old geezers with
>some technical expertise who like to share. That's comfortable.

The reason this (c.o.l or c.o.l.help) is sedate is because not that many
servers carry it. Compare the servers listed in the Path: headers here
verses in c.o.l.misc, and you'd see quite a difference. The 'alt' groups
have similar problems, in that there is no "requirement" to carry any of
them, and each news admin decides on his own which if any will be carried
on his system.

>And don't forget the set the card punch to actually punch the cards rather
>than simulate as I have done a couple of times and discovered after a half
>a rack of cards later. Ah yes, Honeywell JCL.

I've still got a number of yellow plastic bins about 4 x 4 x 17 inch that
would hold up to about 2000 cards in one convenient dropable container,
but haven't seen a working (production use) punch or reader in a while.
I know several (US) state election commissions still have them, but that's
about it.

        Old guy



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