Re: Upgrade Fedora Core 3 to Fedora Core 5 Help please
- From: Ohmster <notareal@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 06 Jun 2006 03:24:03 GMT
Lenard <lenard@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in
news:U9Ugg.111173$dW3.58187@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx:
Hello Lenard.
<snip>
I run this machine 24/7 and it is always reliable but am missing out
on some of the nice new features that I hear about with Fedora Core
5. Also, the gnome-updater really does not offer much in the way of
updates anymore, so I want to update to Fedora Core 5. I am using
wget to snag the iso files as I write this.
What new features are you concerned about??? The fact that
gnome-updater does not offer much in the way of upgrades may be a good
thing, all the bugs have been worked out(maybe).
Features, there is always nice polish on a new Fedora release. There
looks like a lot of nice stuff. Have a look:
http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc5/release-notes-ISO/
#id3145844
This is what has changed since Fedora Core 4 and I am still on Fedora
Core 3.
The new Gnome and sometimes there are aplications that I want to install
that I cannot because I have older libs on my system and libs are not
something that is easily updated, at least for me, so I stick with an rpm
based package manager and have had good luck with it so far. Sometimes
what I want is not available as an rpm so I have to use a tarball and if
I have older libs, then I am stuck.
The updates were something that I liked because I got updated packages
and most important, security updates. They have just stopped comming now
with up2date-gnome, just says that no updates are available. Wonder what
up2date would say, let's see...
Hmmm, not much I guess:
ohmster@ohmster ~]$ up2date --list
You are attempting to run "up2date" which requires administrative
privileges, but more information is needed in order to do so.
Password for root:
http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/fedora-core-3
using mirror: http://ftp.uni-
bayreuth.de/linux/fedora/linux/core/3/i386/os
http://fedora.redhat.com/download/up2date-mirrors/updates-released-fc3
using mirror: http://fr2.rpmfind.net/linux/fedora/core/updates/3/i386
Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: fedora-core-3...
Fetching Obsoletes list for channel: updates-released-fc3...
Fetching rpm headers...
Name Version Rel
----------------------------------------------------------
[ohmster@ohmster ~]$
So it looks like Fedora Core 3 is getting a little long in the tooth and
it is time to get with the program and get up to date. The last time I
sat on my ass when Redhat 9 went EOL, everything worked, life was grand,
not need to worry, right? Wrong. Dead wrong. I found this out when my
machine seemed unusually busy and generally unresponsive. Top showed
processes running by apache that I never even heard of. Checking the
sendmail log was a nightmare, about 3,000 spam messages a day were being
sent. Ouch. Apache was compromised. Had to shut it down, format, and
installed Fedora.
Question: Will an update from fc3 to fc5 go smooth? Will it break any
of the stuff that I have in place already? I know that this is an
almost impossible question to answer accurately but I would just like
some feedback from anyone that has already updated fedora.
The upgrade may not go well, many many horror stories about video
problems with nVidia and ATI cards. Many have been fixed, but you need
to apply a bunch of updates right away. Many have reported multiple
versions of the installed packages (left over FC3/4 and the updated
FC5 duplicates).
You are the second one to say that nvidia was a problem. I have always
used nvidia cards and they always kicked ass. As Michael Heiming pointed
out, even yum updates the nvidia drivers now and it works like a charm. I
wanted to try it but there are no repos for FC3 for that, that is another
nice thing to look forward to with FC5.
Last night, I wanted to pull the iso files but not start the download
until I went to bed. I need help with the sleep command to make the
download with wget wait about two hours then would start downloading when
I was in bed, so I jumped into #linux on IRC with epic. My version of
epic is a bit old I guess, epic-2.2-1.1.fc3.rf, and the darmed CLI screen
is all black and white, not a bit of color. This makes cruising IRC
difficult as I like the color to differentiate the different
conversations and all. So I tried to update epic or even install IRCII
but no luck, my libs were too old, I need a newer version of ncurses and
tried to update that, oh my God, dependancy hell, forget it and just wait
for FC5. I like CLI programs a lot like IRC, pine, and vim and just about
anything else I can do with the CLI but will jump into x if I have to.
As a warning, your isa sound card may not work after the upgrade.
Oh gee, I hope not. Linux has always been good with supporting older
hardware and I really like the AWE 64, it is a nice card, especially for
that machine. It was a powerhouse in it's day and is matched pretty well
for that card. Makes a dandy personal server and even workstation with
all that RAM that is in there. I will keep my fingers crossed but if I
have to, I will get a PCI card then.
<snip>
Feedback please. Thanks.
As always the best thing to do is backup everything of importance and
do a fresh clean install.
Yeah Lenard, like I was telling noi, I think that I really had better not
rush into this, do an extra job or two and spend the hundred bucks at
newegg to get a nice 250Gb drive, clone my original over, and then was
going to try and update my clone drive but now that I think about it, I
may just install the new drive, install Fedora Core 5 fresh, as there is
nothing nicer than a clean install, and the put my old drive in as a
secondary drive and take my time pulling my stuff over from it. That
would not be so bad as all the original stuff will still be there and
there will be no chance of really losing it. Then when I have plucked all
that I want to pluck, format the original drive and either use it for a
backup or more storage. That really makes the best sense. This time I am
not compromised so there is no rush for this, just do it as I can.
Thanks for the feedback and goodnight Lenard.
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