Re: Upgrade Fedora Core 3 to Fedora Core 5 Help please



Ohmster wrote:

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What new features are you concerned about??? The fact that
gnome-updater does not offer much in the way of upgrades may be a good
thing, all the bugs have been worked out(maybe).

Features, there is always nice polish on a new Fedora release. There
looks like a lot of nice stuff. Have a look:

http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/release-notes/fc5/release-notes-ISO/
#id3145844

Seen that..... I 'm not that impressed.... got tired of some of the mistakes
made like rushing out and update to soon without proper testing.

This is what has changed since Fedora Core 4 and I am still on Fedora
Core 3.

Well, for me I'm running (at least according to redhat-release);

$ cat /etc/redhat-release
CentOS release 4.3 (Final)

The new Gnome and sometimes there are aplications that I want to install
that I cannot because I have older libs on my system and libs are not
something that is easily updated, at least for me, so I stick with an rpm
based package manager and have had good luck with it so far. Sometimes
what I want is not available as an rpm so I have to use a tarball and if
I have older libs, then I am stuck.

I personally do not like or use Gnome, I perfer KDE instead.....

I do agree that upgrading libs and other packages can be a bit of a pain,
but it can be done. For me (my laptop for example) I'm closer to FC6/RHEL5
than what is standard for CentOS-4.3 (RHEL4 release 3);

$ rpm -qa --qf="%{n}-%{v}-%{r}.%{arch}.rpm\n" | grep 3.5.3 | sort
kdeadmin-3.5.3-1.x86_64.rpm
kdeartwork-3.5.3-1.x86_64.rpm
kdeartwork-icons-3.5.3-1.x86_64.rpm
kdebase-3.5.3-1.x86_64.rpm
kdebase-devel-3.5.3-1.x86_64.rpm
kdelibs-3.5.3-2.x86_64.rpm
kdelibs-devel-3.5.3-2.x86_64.rpm
kdemultimedia-3.5.3-1.x86_64.rpm
kdemultimedia-devel-3.5.3-1.x86_64.rpm
kdepim-3.5.3-1.x86_64.rpm
kdepim-devel-3.5.3-1.x86_64.rpm

$ rpm -qa --qf="%{n}-%{v}-%{r}.%{arch}.rpm\n" 'cups*' 'udev*' 'hal*' | sort
cups-1.2.1-6.x86_64.rpm
cups-devel-1.2.1-6.x86_64.rpm
cups-libs-1.2.1-6.i386.rpm
cups-libs-1.2.1-6.x86_64.rpm
hal-0.5.7-7.i386.rpm
hal-0.5.7-7.x86_64.rpm
hal-devel-0.5.7-7.x86_64.rpm
udev-091-3.x86_64.rpm

$ rpm -qa --qf="%{n}-%{v}-%{r}.%{arch}.rpm\n" '*gcc*' | sort
compat-gcc-32-3.2.3-47.3.x86_64.rpm
compat-gcc-32-c++-3.2.3-47.3.x86_64.rpm
compat-libgcc-296-2.96-132.7.2.i386.rpm
gcc-4.1.0-3.x86_64.rpm
gcc-c++-4.1.0-3.x86_64.rpm
gcc-gfortran-4.1.0-3.x86_64.rpm
gcc-gnat-4.1.0-3.x86_64.rpm
libgcc-4.1.0-3.i386.rpm
libgcc-4.1.0-3.x86_64.rpm


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So it looks like Fedora Core 3 is getting a little long in the tooth and
it is time to get with the program and get up to date. The last time I
sat on my ass when Redhat 9 went EOL, everything worked, life was grand,
not need to worry, right? Wrong. Dead wrong. I found this out when my
machine seemed unusually busy and generally unresponsive. Top showed
processes running by apache that I never even heard of. Checking the
sendmail log was a nightmare, about 3,000 spam messages a day were being
sent. Ouch. Apache was compromised. Had to shut it down, format, and
installed Fedora.

This and the problems I mentioned earlier is why I switched over to CentOS
instead of going the Fedora way, been happy ever since. I'm not saying
Fedora Core is not a good choice, I used it since FC1 came out and used it
until FC5 beta1 was about to come out.


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Yeah Lenard, like I was telling noi, I think that I really had better not
rush into this, do an extra job or two and spend the hundred bucks at
newegg to get a nice 250Gb drive, clone my original over, and then was
going to try and update my clone drive but now that I think about it, I
may just install the new drive, install Fedora Core 5 fresh, as there is
nothing nicer than a clean install, and the put my old drive in as a
secondary drive and take my time pulling my stuff over from it. That
would not be so bad as all the original stuff will still be there and
there will be no chance of really losing it. Then when I have plucked all
that I want to pluck, format the original drive and either use it for a
backup or more storage. That really makes the best sense. This time I am
not compromised so there is no rush for this, just do it as I can.

I do not know which FC5 ISO images you downloaded, but in case you have not
heard there are FC5 respins ISO images available;

http://fedoraunity.org/

Just watch out for the partition labels when installing the old FC3 drive,
it might be a good idea to change the name of them on the old FC3 drive
before removal.


--
"A personal computer is called a personal computer because it's yours,
Anything that runs on that computer, you should have control over."
Andrew Moss, Microsoft's senior director of technical policy, 2005
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