Re: cannot start 3 services after FC3 upgrade ==> Update not that great.

From: James T (turajb_at__NOSPAM_hoflink.com)
Date: 11/21/04

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    AnonymousFC3,

    Well, I would have to differ in your claim that FC3 (final) is unstable &
    cannot be ungraded well. I've upgraded several machine, some from RedHat9
    to FC1 to FC2 and now to FC3; while most were installed with FC1 or FC2 &
    then upgraded directly to FC3. All have all been very stable & with very
    very minimal or no problems. The FC2 to FC3 upgrades went very smoothly
    with no errors, excluding the 2 systems noted in my last post.

    As to crashing, I've only had my main system crash a few times and that
    was because I was doing stupid things in efforts to test FC limits.

    During normal day to day operations on FC1, FC2 or FC3, I've never
    crashed the system.

    Granted when I tested FC3 Test1 & Test2, they were on the bit on the buggy
    side. But of course these were test distros & you must expect a package
    here and there to not work or upgrade correctly.

    Believe it or not, other then the SELinux issues noted below, I've not had
    a single problems.

    Incidentally SELiux was found to be the cause to my original post. I
    discovered this late yesterday night. As previously indicated, the problem
    was with SELinux denying those services permission/access to those libs.
    As soon as I turned off SELinux, by setting SELINUX to 'permissive' in
    file '/etc/selinux/config' and rebooted, the system started up correctly
    & no service startup errors were noted (such as the 3 noted in my previous
    post). As far as I can how see, the system is back to 100% usage & stability.

    I would like to keep SELinux running, so now may task is to research
    SELinux further to figure out how to register those libs for those 3
    services, so they don't get those permission errors when I reactivate
    SELinux in the near future.

    I hope you have better luck with your FC3 setups.

    James T.
    turajb@_NOSPAM_hoflink.com
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    On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 23:27:58 -0800, AnonymousFC3 wrote:

    > James:
    > I have posted a few notes about this.
    > Update from FC2 to FC3 "almost work", but is obviously very unreliable.
    > I had regular crashes... Until I did a "fresh re-install" on a
    > reformatted partition.
    > Now I have a very stable system. Even the bugs are stable ;)
    >
    > I have read before that updates of an rpm based system is technically
    > very challenging, this may explain updates do not work so well. My RH9
    > to FC2 upgrade was quite good, but of course I had to do a lot of manual
    > repairs.
    >
    > Install, including updates, and system changes, seem to be the main
    > difference between distros.
    > I like Fedora, but must admit that Mandrake and Suse installs/update
    > tools are so far better, easier too.
    >
    > Hopefully someone, maybe at RedHat will put more work there. I cannot
    > imagine a non technical user accepting to deal with a Red Hat install:
    > too complex, too difficult, and also no support for Muti-boot systems
    > (Mandrake shines there!).
    >
    > Hope I did not offend anyone...
    > AnonymousFC3
    >
    >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
    >>> service httpd start
    >> Starting httpd: /usr/sbin/httpd: error while loading shared libraries:
    >> libpcre.so.0: cannot open shared object file: Permission denied
    >> [FAILED]
    >>
    >>> service portmap start
    >> Starting portmap: portmap: error while loading shared libraries:
    >> libnsl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: Permission denied [FAILED]
    >>
    >>> service syslog start
    >> Starting system logger: syslogd: error while loading shared libraries:
    >> libc.so.6: cannot open shared object file: Permission denied [FAILED]
    >> -----------------------------------------------------------------
    >>
    >>
    >> Google has been of minimal help on the issue. The only thing that I
    >> could find is that the issue may be related to SELinux permissions.
    >>

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