Re: Howto: ssh X11 display to Win2k
From: P.T. Breuer (ptb_at_oboe.it.uc3m.es)
Date: 11/17/03
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Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:10:16 GMT
NightStalker <NightStalker@somewhere.or.other> wrote:
> In article <gkgapb.if1.ln@news.it.uc3m.es>, ptb@oboe.it.uc3m.es says...
> >
> > I don't care whether he understands or not. Understanding is HIS
> > business, not mine. I can only TELL him.
> But that's the point - you're not listening to HIM. And he is telling
> you he is faced with a blank grey screen with the X on it - NOT a
> command shell or anything else. But you keep telling him to type stuff.
I know what he's seeing. So what? It's just the standard X server.
Yes, I tell him to type stuff. What's his problem? Can't he type? He
can type perfectly well! Oh .. you are trying to draw my attention to
the fact that typing at a X server does no good? I know that! Tell HIM
that!
> > > Are you telling him just to start typing something on his keyboard? If
> >
> > Yep.
> See above
See above.
> > > so, this is very unnatural with no feedback on the monitor - all that's
> >
> > It's quite natural, whether you have feedback or not, but you have all
> > the feedback you ever require when you do do so.
> Huh? Where? How? I pound that keyboard and NOTHING happens!
Then try harder, this time engaging your brain first. You'll have to
connect your keyboard to something that takes keyed input, you know!
A shell springs to mind as a good start!
> > You're not supposed to be typing at an X server screen!!!! Where do you
> > make up such an idea? You type into a shell script, or a shell prompt
> > if you prefer to do such things interactively.
> Buth that's EXACTLY what you've just been telling us to do, dammit! See
Where have I told you to type at an X server? I have never done such a
thing. I entirely disavow your claim. I have never ever done any such
thing.
> above. James - and I - are sitting staring at the X on a grey screen,
> and we are asking - "Where do we go from here?" And in one line above
Well don't sit there staring at an X server screen. What's the point in
that? You can only type at a prompt or in an editor for a script. Are
you idiots? If somebody asks you to write a note do you say "I'm
moving my fingers but nothing is happening"? No - you get a pen and
paper.
> you say to just start typing, and now you say NOT to type at an X server
No, I have NEVER told you to type an an X server screen. That is your
own fantastic invention, or should I say, incredible stupidity. Where
do you get such a non-idea from?
> screen! Geez - talk about confusing! Where, when, and how do we type
> stuff into a shell script? THAT'S what James is asking, but you're not
You type wherever you like whenever you like however you like.
> listening.
I'm listening alright. Recall that I understand perfectly.
> > I'm not. I simply refuse to put up with such stupidity. You know
> > perfectly well how to start an xterminal. You type "xterm" at a shell
> > prompt. And I've told you that $DISPLAY and -display control which
> > server that connects to. And YOU know which processor runs it, because
> > you are sitting there typing at its shell prompt. There is nothing much
> > else to say (apart from the little matter of auth, and xdm config, ...
> You see - there you go again. We do NOT know how to start an xterminal
I've just told you how for the umpteenth time. You type "xterm".
> - that's EXACTLY what we're trying to tell you and ask for help on.
No, you know perfectly well how to start an xterm. Don't lie. Even if
you were so fantastically stupid as to not know how, I told you. You
type "xterm".
> Typing xterm at the original command line in PUTTY is what puts the X-
> on-grey screen up there.
Indeed! I knew you knew! Are you trying to play stupid buggers?
> Never mind - I think I'll just go and play with Windows instead - at
> least it's easier to figure out!
What's to figure out? You know all there is to know. Now just quit
being stupid and playing dumb.
Peter
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