Re: RH 9.0, Putting Samba on Linux with RPM?

From: W. Watson (wolf_tracks_at_invalid.inv)
Date: 11/21/04 

Date: Sun, 21 Nov 2004 16:27:40 GMT

Lenard wrote:

> On Sun, 21 Nov 2004 12:23:30 +0000, W. Watson wrote:
>
> Top posting corrected
>
>
>>Lenard wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Sat, 20 Nov 2004 21:43:58 +0000, W. Watson wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>I thought I'd try to hook up my RH 9.0 Linux computer to a small
>>>>network of Win machines. According to one of the RH documents, one can
>>>>fire up from the Main Menu the configuration tool form Systems
>>>>Settings->Server Settings->Samba Settings. Not on my machine. I see no
>>>>Samba Settings, but instead Service. I think it shows something about
>>>>eth0, which is inactive. Apparently, I need to install Samba with RPM.
>>>>I'd like to do it with the graphic interface, but don't see any manual
>>>>for it on the RH site. I see lots of manuals at
>>>><http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/>. Nothing
>>>>specific to RPM, but I do see PDF, RPM and Html as choices. Clicking
>>>>on RPM below a manual name gets me know where, as far as I can tell.
>>>
>>>
>>>First; the links (RPM, PDF and HTML) below the manual titles are for
>>>downloading the various manuals in the package forms. It's a good idea
>>>to download at least the first three of them. I would suggest the PDF
>>>version so you can read them in either Windows or Linux.
>>>
>>>Second; RPM == [R]ed Hat [P]ackage [M]anager you can find the guide to
>>>RPM at; http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/
>>>
>>>Third; Red Hat Linux 9 is old and is no longer supported by Red Hat,
>>>the product reached End of Life on April 30, 2004
>>>
>>>Fourth; To install samba-2.2.7a-7.9.0.i386.rpm the Samba Server.
>>>
>>>The package is located on the CD media you have, I don't remember which
>>>one sorry. Mount each CD and browse it until you find the package you
>>>want. Then either click or double-click on the package (depending how
>>>your setup) to install it. But before you do this, may I suggest that
>>>you;
>>>
>>>Install apt(direct link to the package);
>>>http://download.fedora.us/fedora/redhat/9/i386/RPMS.stable/apt-0.5.5cnc6-0.fdr.8.rh90.i386.rpm
>>>
>>>
>>>Fast (DSL line) from the console or xterm session as root type;
>>>
>>>rpm -ivh <type the link above here>
>>>
>>>Slow (dial-up) from the console or xterm session as root type;
>>>
>>>wget <type the link above here> rpm -ivh apt-0.5.5cnc6-fr1.i386.rpm
>>>
>>>Do the same with synaptic (the GUI interface to apt);
>>>ftp://ftp.pbone.net/mirror/download.fedora.us/fedora/redhat/9/i386/RPMS.stable/synaptic-0.47-0.fdr.3.rh90.i386.rpm
>>>
>>>
>>>Then visit; http://fedoralegacy.org/
>>>
>>>This way you can bring your Red Hat Linux 9 current (install the latest
>>>upgrades, addons and patches). Take the time and follow the Download
>>>link for instructions. And please do not forget to read;
>>>http://fedoralegacy.org/docs/apt-rh9.php
>>>
>>>With synaptic open (and apt configured) all you do is select the
>>>package(s) you want to install and click on the appropriate buttons to
>>>download and install them.
>>>
>>>
>>>Lastly; Please consider upgrading to Fedora Core 1, 2 or 3 all are
>>>still supported. Fedora Core 2 or 3 are still actively supported,
>>>Fedora Core 1 recently became legacy (still support at the link already
>>>provided above).
>>>
>>>http://fedora.redhat.com/
>
>
>>Thanks. Unfortunately, I'm using realtime (RT) Linux and the kernel
>>build instructions for it are centered around RH 9.0, so I have a
>>peculair breed of Linux. What is apt? Are the instructions you provided
>>for an upgrade to RH 9.0 or to replace it with Fedora? Is Fedora
>>available on CD?
>
>
>
> Apt is a improved package manager. The instructions I provide are to
> install apt and maybe synaptic, then update RHL9 to the currently
> available updates to RHL9. Fedora is available on CD, you can download
> them or purchase them;
>
> Download; http://fedora.redhat.com/download/
>
> Purchase(one of many places); http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart
>
>
>
>>I managed to push further ahead with my "discovery" trail blazing of
>>Samba, and found from mounting the first install CD that I had selected
>>Samba for the initial build. However, when I tried man samba and man
>>smb, I got nothing. I found smb.conf and modified it--only the
>>workgroup, so it seems as some components of it are there. I tried
>>testparam and some other related commands and they were there. However,
>>the smb command to start Samba wasn't to be found. I also found some net
>>controller app off the main menu and set my ip address to 192.168.0.1.
>>The 192.168.0 portion I use for the other machines on the network. When
>>I rebooted, Linux complained about not being able to access something
>>related to the network but gave me the choice to continue, which I did.
>>Actually, I'm attempting this so that I can use NTP. The Linux app I'm
>>running needs an accurate clock. Updating the clock from elsewhere on
>>the network once a day is sufficient to keep the app happy.
>
>
> If all you need is to keep accurate time then you don't need samba. If you
> have a time server already available then configure the ntpd daemon to use
> the time server, see 'man ntpd' without the quotes for the details.
>
> Samba is used to share files between Windows and Linux mainly. The Samba
> server is to share files from Linux to Windows, the client is used to
> connect to the Windows shares. To start smb (assuming samba server is
> installed and configured) as root type from the console or xterm session
> something like; service smb start
>
> For a good HOWTO on smb visit; http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO.html
>
> Visit; http://ntp.isc.org/bin/view/Users/WebHome If your RHL9 system has
> direct access to the Internet use a time server close to your location.
> I'm fairly close to Purdue so I use the time service they have available.
> I just added Purdue's sever (tick.cerias.purdue.edu) to my /etc/ntp.conf
> file, or for example to manually adjust your clock you can simply type
> something like; sudo /usr/sbin/ntpdate -u 128.10.252.7 ;see both 'man
> sudo' and 'man ntpdate' for the details
>
> Example;
> $ sudo /usr/sbin/ntpdate -u 128.10.252.7
>
> /sbin/ntpdate -u 128.10.252.7
> 21 Nov 08:30:42 ntpdate[22354]: adjust time server 128.10.252.7 offset
> 0.045940sec
>
>
Thanks for the info. It sounds like you are saying that going to Fedora shouldn'be be
harmful. Probably not, but I'll check with the people who wrote the application.
Supposedly this ia a set it and forget it application, so updating Linux shouldn't be
much of an issue.

I just did a google on Synaptic thinking that may actually be a dictionary word. It's
a a mgmt. package, and I'm guessing the apt came from the middle of it, which is a
dictionary word. An interesting marketing angle.

I could manually update it daily as you suggest, but the Linux computer is in another
building and it not always on my mind to keep the clock up to date. The application
runs 7/24 and needs better time management than I'm currently giving it. Although
less demanding for the application, moving its data files across the net would be
helpful. Thankfully I only have to do that about once a month. If there's an
alternative network facility that would allow me to keep time on the network, I'd be
interested. I can forgo the samba route for some sneaker net activity once a month.
BTW, the app is an all sky camera that captures meteor images.

It may be that the samba installation on RH 9 is defective. That might explain the
man page and other weirdness. I found the follow page yesterday that suggests there
may be some deficiency. See
<http://www.duxcw.com/digest/Howto/software/linux/rh/90install/6.html> and comments
about SWAT. Odd too that my wife's machine seems to be OK Samba wise. At least it
appears to be complete, although she uses it without a network. However, mine is the
Shrike version, which is the costly version with phone support (expired). Also, she's
applied every fix she could get her hands on. 

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