Re: Printer Problem and "Support" for RH Enterprise WS Release 9 (Shrike)

From: Jean-David Beyer (jdbeyer_at_exit109.com)
Date: 11/27/04 

Date: Sat, 27 Nov 2004 10:12:31 -0500

W. Watson wrote:
> Jean-David Beyer wrote:
>
>> W. Watson wrote:
>>
>>> I'm beginning to suspect that my printer problem is related to a
>>> basic problem in my RH WS Rel 9 product that was not fixed.
>>
>> What printer problem?
>
> The one you mention below. Also see my post called "Setting Up a Printer
> on Lpt2", which has evolved into this query.

If you start a new thread, you cannot assume that people are up to date on
a different thread and that they will search around in that different
thread to find out what you are talking about.

> Could you please tell me
> what those acronymns you use mean? RHEL? RHL 9? ES?

RHEL is Red Hat Enterprise Linux. Releases 2.1 and 3 are currently
supported. RHEL 3 has three versions AS, ES, and WS.

http://www.redhat.com/software/rhel/
AS Top of the line server.
ES Small to mid-range servers.
WS Technical workstation and single-unit desktops/clients.

RHL 9 is the last release of the Red Hat Linux series. Support for it was
discontinued around April 2004, IIRC.
>
>>
>> Please stop calling it RH Enterprise WS Release 9 (Shrike)! There is
>> not now, and there never has been, a distribution named that. It is
>> either RHL 9 (Shrike) or RHEL 3 ES. You must make up your mind which
>> it is that you are running!
>
> If not mistaken, I believe that gloriously long title was actually on
> the now long gone box the product was in. I also believe that's very
> close to the title that flashes before my eyes every time I boot up
> Linux, just prior to the logon screen. It definitely says Release 9.

I run RHEL 3 ES, and on the box it says "RED HAT ENTERPRISE LINUX Version
3 ES" This is a set of 9 CD-ROMs purchased direct from Red Hat.

I also run RHL 9, and on the box it says "Red Hat Linux 9 Operating
System" This is a set of 7 CD-ROMs purchased direct from Red Hat.

I do not choose to reboot either of my machines at the moment, and they
have been up so long that the boot output in my logfiles has fallen off.

If I go to console 1 on my RHEL 3 ES machine, I get the following just
before it puts up the logon prompt:

Red Hat Enterprise Linux ES (Taroon Update 3)
Kernel 2.4.21-20.ELsmp on an i686

If I go to console 1 on my RHL 9 machine, I get the following just before
it puts up the logon prompt:

Red Hat Linux release 9 (Shrike)
Kernel 2.4.20-31.9smp on an i686

> I
> also recall, I think accurately, the product is referred to as the WS
> (workstation) version of Enterprise) Relese 9. Perhaps the marketers and
> developers don't really agree on what they call it. It wouldn't be the
> first time of such an occurrence.
>
> For the record, I'm reading the following off the documentation CD
> label, "Red Hat Enterprise Linux Version 3". And from CD #1, "Red Hat
> Enterprise Linux WS version 3 for the x86 architecture". And now
> mounting the CD #1 on my XP I see in the release notes, "Red Hat
> Enterprise Linux WS 3 Release Notes". In a README doc, "Red Hat
> Enterprise Linux/x86 WS 3 (Taroon)". Shrike? Taroon? Who's on first?

Taroon, obviously. Nowhere have you shown this has anything to do with RHL
9 or Shrike.
>
> As I mentioned before to you in the other thread, I believe there is a
> RH designation and a Linux designation. I can take a look later today
> and get the (Linux) 3.20.xxx.yyy.zzz, or whatever, designator, if that
> will help.

What you call the RH designation is what, if you got it correctly, Red Hat
call their _distribution_. What you call the Linux designation is the
identification of only the kernel. The current kernel for RHEL3 is
2.4.21-20.EL with smp after it if you are running an SMP version.

The most recent kernel for RHL9 is 2.4.20-31.9 with smp after it if you
are running an SMP version.

I do not believe there are 3.20 kernels out there. While I do not keep
track of such things, I imagine the development version of the next kernel
would be called 2.5.* and if Linux T. considers it a major update, it
might finally be called 3.0.*
>
>>
>>> The symptom is that when I try to do an lpr to my printer, I get a
>>> message that states, "server-error-service-unavailable".
>>
>>
>>
>> Did you configure the printing system correctly? Sounds like your system
>
> If so, I don't see any other way of configuring it.
>
>> does not believe you have a printer on it.
>
> Apparently not. W2000 certainly believes it's there. Both W2000 and
> Linux are on the same machine. W2000 has it on LPT2, which in Linux-land
> is lp1, right?

I believe that is correct. LPT1 is /dev/lp0. LPT2 is /dev/lp1, LPT3 is
/dev/lp2, and LPT4 is /dev/lp3

Is cupsd running on your machine?

> In fact, when I configured the printer on Linux it forced
> me to use /dev/lp1. lp0 was apparently already taken (by my other
> device?). BTW, the printer is an HP 812(c?).
>
>>
>> Is your machine that you are doing this from the one with the printer
>> on it, or is the printer on a different machine on a LAN?
>
> The printer is not on a net. It's cable goes right to the PC. It is on
> the second parallel port. The first parallel port contains a completely
> different device--definitely not a printer.
>
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