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Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2003 01:15:13 GMT

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 08:08:58 -0800, Jim wrote:

> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 05:07:41 +0000, Brandon wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:54:54 -0800, Jim wrote:
>>
>> snip...snip
>>
>>> Try a different video card, an older one. Go into the display
>>> properties for RH and set everything to generic...generic video generic
>>> monitor....and then switch back to your Radeon card. Let us know if
>>> that works.
>>
>> you don't need to do this, you can download radeon drivers for linux. go
>> to http://www.ati.com/support/faq/linux.html for information straight
>> from ATI
>
> As a new user i recommend AGAINST attempting to download any drivers in
> the convoluted confusing and frustrating world of linux. ATI may be
> different then nVidia but I suspect they are modeled alike.
>
> In the nVidia camp you have to start without the x window system running
> and then when you execute the installer it actually wants the header files
> for parts of the OS, which means it is going to try to compile something
> on your machine.

as root:
init 3; sh ./NVIDIA-Linux-rest-of-file-name.sh;
thats is to hard?
(the compilation is done automatically if needed)
 
> This is a sacralidge in the computer world. No users should be compiling
> portions of the OS just to get a driver installed.

I guess the user *should* have to own more then one video card,
and switch then in and out? sounds harder then 2 commands to me :\

> So, unless you are vet and you understand exactly what is going on and are
> willing to put up with the potential to recompile parts of your OS to get
> a driver installed then follow his advice.

He's right, much easier just to work extra hours to get the extra
money to buy another more *generic* video card that won't work as
well...

> I would recommend the path of least resistence. Swap a video card for and
> older one (if you have it) and see if x windows works. Then review and
> select your current video card from the list PROVIDED by RH. Then
> reinsert your old card.

I don't know about ATI drivers provided by RH, but the NV driver they
provide is not hardware accelerated... Boy I love playing quake at 12 fps

/* start rant */
sorry for the sarcasm, but how is a "newbie" ever going to learn if
they don't actually get the computer to work for them (ie... with the
hardware they want) instead of them working for the computer (ie...
with the hardware that has good default setups)
/* end rant */

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